Comments on: Curly Quotes in Movable Type http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/ Unlucky in Cards Sat, 26 May 2012 13:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4-beta4-20941 By: tim bowman http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-276 tim bowman Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:37:21 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-276 Is there any way to turn curlyquotes off for certain circumstances-inside a tag for instance? The typographer in me _loves_ seeing the correct quotes, but the barely-competent web guy hates it when the link that pops up a new window gets the size wrong. Does this make _any_ sense? Is there any way to turn curlyquotes off for certain circumstances-inside a tag for instance? The typographer in me _loves_ seeing the correct quotes, but the barely-competent web guy hates it when the link that pops up a new window gets the size wrong.

Does this make _any_ sense?

]]> By: Tannock.Net http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-152 Tannock.Net Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:07:21 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-152 <b>Curly Quotes, em & en dashes regex!</b><br />photomatt | Curly Quotes in Movable Type I installed the Curly Quotes Regex Plugin, including the advanced em & en Curly Quotes, em & en dashes regex!
photomatt | Curly Quotes in Movable Type I installed the Curly Quotes Regex Plugin, including the advanced em & en

]]> By: linky linky http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-149 linky linky Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:52:45 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-149 <b></b><br />Curly Quotes in Movable Type
Curly Quotes in Movable Type

]]> By: michel v http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-143 michel v Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:10:25 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-143 Since I'm completely unable to read and comprehend Perl code, is there some place where you explain the code logic behind the replacements ?<br /> I'm asking this because I'm planning to implement that as a Smarty modifier for b2 1.0 templates. ;) Since I’m completely unable to read and comprehend Perl code, is there some place where you explain the code logic behind the replacements ?
I’m asking this because I’m planning to implement that as a Smarty modifier for b2 1.0 templates. ;)

]]> By: john http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-142 john Wed, 25 Sep 2002 06:43:01 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-142 gotcha, matt.<br /> <br /> so you're saying that you're using<br /> <br /> ‘ for ‘<br /> ’ for ’<br /> “ for “<br /> ” for ”<br /> <br /> What about adding a case where if the user has entered 8'6" or [number]'[number]" or I'd think to cover yourself 8' 1/2" [number]'[space][number]/[number]" you'd insert the correct marks:<br /> <br /> ′ for ′ [′]<br /> ″ for ″ [″]<br /> <br /> ? sound hard to do, or way out there? <br /> <br /> (I'm by no means a REGEX knowledgeable guy, but it [always] sounds simple enough)<br /> <br /> john gotcha, matt.

so you’re saying that you’re using

&#8216; for ‘
&#8217; for ’
&#8220; for “
&#8221; for ”

What about adding a case where if the user has entered 8’6″ or [number]‘[number]” or I’d think to cover yourself 8′ 1/2″ [number]‘[space][number]/[number]” you’d insert the correct marks:

&#8242; for ′ [&prime;]
&#8243; for ″ [&Prime;]

? sound hard to do, or way out there?

(I’m by no means a REGEX knowledgeable guy, but it [always] sounds simple enough)

john

]]> By: Matt http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-141 Matt Wed, 25 Sep 2002 06:20:56 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-141 Browser support is exactly the problem. Most notably NS4 has dismal support for named entities. Decimal notation (what I used) is the most consistent across platforms, better than hexadecimal, named, and unicode entities. Let me know if you have any more questions. Browser support is exactly the problem. Most notably NS4 has dismal support for named entities. Decimal notation (what I used) is the most consistent across platforms, better than hexadecimal, named, and unicode entities. Let me know if you have any more questions.

]]> By: john http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-139 john Wed, 25 Sep 2002 03:28:53 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-139 Why don't we use these HTML entities for the apostrophese and quotes?<br /> <br /> ‘ for ‘ <br /> ’ for ’<br /> “ for “<br /> ” for ”<br /> <br /> and these for the prime and foot marks?<br /> <br /> ′ for ′<br /> ″ for ″<br /> <br /> It it based on browser support for those entites or something?<br /> <br /> thanks,<br /> john Why don’t we use these HTML entities for the apostrophese and quotes?

&lsquo; for ‘
&rsquo; for ’
&ldquo; for “
&rdquo; for ”

and these for the prime and foot marks?

&prime; for ′
&Prime; for ″

It it based on browser support for those entites or something?

thanks,
john

]]> By: inluminent/weblog http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-138 inluminent/weblog Wed, 25 Sep 2002 03:19:48 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-138 <b>success with curly quotes -- finally</b><br />Ok, curly quotes are now part of this weblog. Woohoo! And I'm not writing any instructions, because these instructions by success with curly quotes — finally
Ok, curly quotes are now part of this weblog. Woohoo! And I’m not writing any instructions, because these instructions by

]]> By: Matt http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-137 Matt Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:38:28 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-137 If you're going to be posting code or something that like where the prime marks are appropiate, I would recommend writing the HTML entities for them. It's a matter of cost/benefit analysis: do you write apostrophes and quotes more or measurements? If you use measurements more, then maybe this isn't for you. Just for reference the HTML entity for a single prime is <code>'</code> and a double can be either <code>"</code> or <code>"</code>. (I had a hard time finding the single quote entity before.) If you’re going to be posting code or something that like where the prime marks are appropiate, I would recommend writing the HTML entities for them. It’s a matter of cost/benefit analysis: do you write apostrophes and quotes more or measurements? If you use measurements more, then maybe this isn’t for you. Just for reference the HTML entity for a single prime is &#039; and a double can be either &quot; or &#034;. (I had a hard time finding the single quote entity before.)

]]> By: jsp http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-136 jsp Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:30:41 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-136 How does it handle units of measurement? Feet and inches (as in 6'8") should be displayed with prime and double prime and never "curly" quotes. How does it handle units of measurement? Feet and inches (as in 6’8″) should be displayed with prime and double prime and never “curly” quotes.

]]> By: Matt http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-134 Matt Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:48:17 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-134 Thanks for the heads-up on that link. It's been fixed. Thanks for the heads-up on that link. It’s been fixed.

]]> By: webspiffy http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-133 webspiffy Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:06:27 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-133 Brad Choate over at bradchoate.com also wrote a plug-in that can handle this. His MTMacro plug-in allows for the finding and replacing of quotes in body text too. I'm not sure if it is slower or faster than this plug-in so be sure to check it out too. Brad Choate over at bradchoate.com also wrote a plug-in that can handle this. His MTMacro plug-in allows for the finding and replacing of quotes in body text too. I’m not sure if it is slower or faster than this plug-in so be sure to check it out too.

]]> By: dave http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-132 dave Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:15:00 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-132 Your hyperlink to "Movable Type" at the top is pointing to "http://movabletype.com" while I believe what you want is "http://movabletype.org". Your hyperlink to “Movable Type” at the top is pointing to “http://movabletype.com” while I believe what you want is “http://movabletype.org”.

]]> By: Nicest of the Damned http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-131 Nicest of the Damned Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:12:53 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-131 <b>Movable Type: CurlyQuotes module</b><br />photomatt | Curly Quotes for Movable Type Automagically generated curly quotes without putting curly quotes in your outbound weblog e-mails or other forms that don't handle HTML entities. Spotted on one of Atlanta's prettiest weblogs, What Do I Know. Movable Type: CurlyQuotes module
photomatt | Curly Quotes for Movable Type Automagically generated curly quotes without putting curly quotes in your outbound weblog e-mails or other forms that don’t handle HTML entities. Spotted on one of Atlanta’s prettiest weblogs, What Do I Know.

]]> By: Nicest of the Damned http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-130 Nicest of the Damned Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:11:39 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-130 <b>Movable Type: CurlyQuotes module</b><br />photomatt | Curly Quotes for Movable Type Automagically generated curly quotes without putting curly quotes in your outbound weblog e-mails or other forms that don't handle HTML entities. Movable Type: CurlyQuotes module
photomatt | Curly Quotes for Movable Type Automagically generated curly quotes without putting curly quotes in your outbound weblog e-mails or other forms that don’t handle HTML entities.

]]> By: Doug http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-129 Doug Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:05:16 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-129 Wonderful! The graphic design teacher at the college has been chiding me for months about using those blasted "foot" marks or whatever they are called.<br /> <br /> Retribution! Wonderful! The graphic design teacher at the college has been chiding me for months about using those blasted “foot” marks or whatever they are called.

Retribution!

]]> By: What Do I Know http://ma.tt/2002/09/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-128 What Do I Know Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:56:38 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2002/09/24/curly-quotes-in-movable-type/#comment-128 <b>Curly Quotes in MovableType</b><br />If you're a stickler for typography and prefer the look of curly, or more traditionally typographer's quotes, in your HTML code, until now you had three choices. One, type “ / ” by hand, each and every time you wanted stylized quo... Curly Quotes in MovableType
If you’re a stickler for typography and prefer the look of curly, or more traditionally typographer’s quotes, in your HTML code, until now you had three choices. One, type &#8220; / &#8221; by hand, each and every time you wanted stylized quo…

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