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		<title>By: Facebook, Open Graph, User-Generated Content, and Small Pieces Loosely Joined &#124; GFMorris.com</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-477881</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook, Open Graph, User-Generated Content, and Small Pieces Loosely Joined &#124; GFMorris.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve given a lot of thought over the years to this identity thing on the Internet. I loved the concept of XFN when it first came out, but man, that was almost seven years ago. I bet even Matt Mullenweg has forgotten about it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve given a lot of thought over the years to this identity thing on the Internet. I loved the concept of XFN when it first came out, but man, that was almost seven years ago. I bet even Matt Mullenweg has forgotten about it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brainstorms and Raves</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-3098</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainstorms and Raves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 04:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Friends, XFN, and Hyperlinks&lt;/strong&gt;
XFN&#8482;, a simple way to represent human relationships within hyperlinks, is part of the efforts of the Global Multimedia Protocols Group, GMPG, founded by Tantek &#199;elik, Eric Meyer, Matthew Mullenweg. Below are a few links that explain more a...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Friends, XFN, and Hyperlinks</strong><br />
XFN&#8482;, a simple way to represent human relationships within hyperlinks, is part of the efforts of the Global Multimedia Protocols Group, GMPG, founded by Tantek &#199;elik, Eric Meyer, Matthew Mullenweg. Below are a few links that explain more a&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1929</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t understant it (me) ,I cannot comment.But off top of my head awful!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t understant it (me) ,I cannot comment.But off top of my head awful!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Queer Dot Net</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1782</link>
		<dc:creator>The Queer Dot Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 12:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Decentralized Blogrolling Script&lt;/strong&gt;
Well, I&#039;m sure most bloggers heard about the little incident with Blogrolling not too long ago. If you haven&#039;t, that site has a bit of a timeline of what happened, but the gist of it was that a small(?) error...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Decentralized Blogrolling Script</strong><br />
Well, I&#8217;m sure most bloggers heard about the little incident with Blogrolling not too long ago. If you haven&#8217;t, that site has a bit of a timeline of what happened, but the gist of it was that a small(?) error&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1755</link>
		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Matthew. Because the important is not the syntax, but the model... it&#039;s exactly the point of RDF. :)) And why it&#039;s so practical in many cases. I don&#039;t want to advocate for RDF in specific but the uses of the RDF model for particular applications. I have expressed my ideas on my weblog about XFN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Matthew. Because the important is not the syntax, but the model&#8230; it&#8217;s exactly the point of RDF. <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) And why it&#8217;s so practical in many cases. I don&#8217;t want to advocate for RDF in specific but the uses of the RDF model for particular applications. I have expressed my ideas on my weblog about XFN.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl &#38;amp; Cow</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1754</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl &#38;amp; Cow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;XFN : Just for Bad Geeks (french)&lt;/strong&gt;
XFN pourrait &#234;tre l&#039;acronyme pour X For Nerds . Voil&#224;, ce qui se passe quand des geeks occidentaux se r&#233;unissent ensemble et cr&#233;ent un format simple, ou plut&#244;t na&#239;f, qui </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>XFN : Just for Bad Geeks (french)</strong><br />
XFN pourrait &#234;tre l&#8217;acronyme pour X For Nerds . Voil&#224;, ce qui se passe quand des geeks occidentaux se r&#233;unissent ensemble et cr&#233;ent un format simple, ou plut&#244;t na&#239;f, qui </p>
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		<title>By: stpeter</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1741</link>
		<dc:creator>stpeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Now you&#8217;ve got to grep through all your pages...&lt;/em&gt;

Not if you&#039;re using external entities in your XML source files (all your content &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; in XML, right?). Just update your entity reference and run your site generation script again. That&#039;s how I do on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saint-andre.com/blog/&quot;&gt;my blog&lt;/a&gt;, anyway. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Now you&#8217;ve got to grep through all your pages&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Not if you&#8217;re using external entities in your XML source files (all your content <em>is</em> in XML, right?). Just update your entity reference and run your site generation script again. That&#8217;s how I do on <a href="http://www.saint-andre.com/blog/">my blog</a>, anyway. <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1740</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl, you&#039;re right. To clarify my own views, I think the serialization of RDF in XML is a pain. Generally, I think when people refer to RDF casually they are talking about RDF/XML. Let me know if I&#039;m completely wrong here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl, you&#8217;re right. To clarify my own views, I think the serialization of RDF in XML is a pain. Generally, I think when people refer to RDF casually they are talking about RDF/XML. Let me know if I&#8217;m completely wrong here.</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;em&gt;The more complex a format is (such as RDF), the longer it takes to get bootstrapped, since the population capable of READING and understanding the format and it&#8217;s applicability is dramatically restricted.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

RDF is not a format... it&#039;s a data model. The syntax can be XML or ***anything else***.

N3 is not unreadable and it&#039;s RDF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><em>The more complex a format is (such as RDF), the longer it takes to get bootstrapped, since the population capable of READING and understanding the format and it&#8217;s applicability is dramatically restricted.</em></i></p>
<p>RDF is not a format&#8230; it&#8217;s a data model. The syntax can be XML or ***anything else***.</p>
<p>N3 is not unreadable and it&#8217;s RDF.</p>
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		<title>By: msquadrat</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1738</link>
		<dc:creator>msquadrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;XFN &amp; FOAF vs. information rot&lt;/strong&gt;
But how do you keep your link releations up to date? Imagine you link regularly to somebody you&#039;re working with but you&#039;ve never personally met. One day you visit him and he becomes a good friend. Now you&#039;ve got to grep through all your pages and up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>XFN &#38; FOAF vs. information rot</strong><br />
But how do you keep your link releations up to date? Imagine you link regularly to somebody you&#8217;re working with but you&#8217;ve never personally met. One day you visit him and he becomes a good friend. Now you&#8217;ve got to grep through all your pages and up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dizzy</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1735</link>
		<dc:creator>Dizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victor said, &lt;blockquote&gt;Didn&#8217;t God give us XML and XML parsers so that we didn&#8217;t have to use tedious regular expressions? And aren&#8217;t regular expressions the one thing in the world that&#8217;s harder than RDF!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Insofar as God giving us XML (and parsers) to avoid regular expressions, that&#039;s a bit like discounting the value of modern automobile, since we now have modern jetliners. Different tools, different uses.  One of the most pervasive, immature attitudes across the &#039;Net is that there is a ONE TRUE way to do things. The trick (and maturity) comes in knowing when to use the right tools for the job at hand. So long as XFN stays true to its purpose -- a simple annotation -- there is nothing wrong with a simple format; XML loses value as a format when you only have a _very_ simplistic data model to express. 

With regard to the question about how &quot;difficult&quot; RDF is to learn, I would note that in my personal experience it took me a day to get a basic grasp on regexes and practically apply them. RDF, I studied for weeks before I even started to understand what to do with it, much less apply it anywhere. But that&#039;s just me. :)

Bill Kearney suggested that programmers need to stop thinking about readability, and start using good tools. The problem with that (circular) argument is that someone, somewhere, has to WRITE the tools. The more complex a format is (such as RDF), the longer it takes to get bootstrapped, since the population capable of READING and understanding the format and it&#039;s applicability is dramatically restricted. Of course this gets into social dynamics, and I would note that populations capable of understanding highly complex formats are typically disinclined to write tools to help others -- they&#039;d rather use of the power of the format than spend time explaining it.

IMHO, of course. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor said,<br />
<blockquote>Didn&#8217;t God give us XML and XML parsers so that we didn&#8217;t have to use tedious regular expressions? And aren&#8217;t regular expressions the one thing in the world that&#8217;s harder than RDF!</p></blockquote>
<p>Insofar as God giving us XML (and parsers) to avoid regular expressions, that&#8217;s a bit like discounting the value of modern automobile, since we now have modern jetliners. Different tools, different uses.  One of the most pervasive, immature attitudes across the &#8216;Net is that there is a ONE TRUE way to do things. The trick (and maturity) comes in knowing when to use the right tools for the job at hand. So long as XFN stays true to its purpose &#8212; a simple annotation &#8212; there is nothing wrong with a simple format; XML loses value as a format when you only have a _very_ simplistic data model to express. </p>
<p>With regard to the question about how &#8220;difficult&#8221; RDF is to learn, I would note that in my personal experience it took me a day to get a basic grasp on regexes and practically apply them. RDF, I studied for weeks before I even started to understand what to do with it, much less apply it anywhere. But that&#8217;s just me. <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Bill Kearney suggested that programmers need to stop thinking about readability, and start using good tools. The problem with that (circular) argument is that someone, somewhere, has to WRITE the tools. The more complex a format is (such as RDF), the longer it takes to get bootstrapped, since the population capable of READING and understanding the format and it&#8217;s applicability is dramatically restricted. Of course this gets into social dynamics, and I would note that populations capable of understanding highly complex formats are typically disinclined to write tools to help others &#8212; they&#8217;d rather use of the power of the format than spend time explaining it.</p>
<p>IMHO, of course. <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dandruff</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1731</link>
		<dc:creator>dandruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Relationship Quagmire&lt;/strong&gt;
However, reading through the info on XFN, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m going to be able to keep my trap shut on a couple of issues. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Relationship Quagmire</strong><br />
However, reading through the info on XFN, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m going to be able to keep my trap shut on a couple of issues. </p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Dodds</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Dodds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: XFN and FOAF. Is FOAF really that hard. I know my mom could fill out this form:

http://www.ldodds.com/foaf/foaf-a-matic

...but I doubt she could create an HTML link. (And yes, she&#039;d still have to work out how to publish her FOAF file afterwards, but that&#039;s what geek sons are for!). Additional notes/corrections on XFN and FOAF here:

http://www.ldodds.com/blog/archives/000105.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: XFN and FOAF. Is FOAF really that hard. I know my mom could fill out this form:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ldodds.com/foaf/foaf-a-matic" rel="nofollow">http://www.ldodds.com/foaf/foaf-a-matic</a></p>
<p>&#8230;but I doubt she could create an HTML link. (And yes, she&#8217;d still have to work out how to publish her FOAF file afterwards, but that&#8217;s what geek sons are for!). Additional notes/corrections on XFN and FOAF here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ldodds.com/blog/archives/000105.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ldodds.com/blog/archives/000105.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1722</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, I think the driving force behind our decision was simplicity and leveraging HTML. If human readability, ease of implementation, and simple parsing are side effects of that, fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I think the driving force behind our decision was simplicity and leveraging HTML. If human readability, ease of implementation, and simple parsing are side effects of that, fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kearney</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1720</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Kearney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arguing about human readable files is silly.  Once upon a time I had to write software that rendered files for graphic display.  I couldn&#039;t actually see the pictures as that required using what was then a hideously expensive frame buffer card.  So I got pretty good at reading the hex files to make sure the picture was &#039;going to look right&#039;.  

Now, fast forward to now and you&#039;d find it utterly ridiculous to do it that way.  The tools for drawing pictures do all the dirty work for you.  You *NEVER* read the file that contains the GIF, PNG or heck, even SVG or PostScript!  At least not unless you a programmer.

So the same analogy applies here.  All the programmer types are whining about &#039;view source&#039; because they&#039;re using shitty tools.  Stop using (or start developing) tools that don&#039;t let you SEE the DATA in ways it&#039;s best represented.

But please, spare us this continued nonsensical arguments about human readability.  They&#039;re just wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguing about human readable files is silly.  Once upon a time I had to write software that rendered files for graphic display.  I couldn&#8217;t actually see the pictures as that required using what was then a hideously expensive frame buffer card.  So I got pretty good at reading the hex files to make sure the picture was &#8216;going to look right&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Now, fast forward to now and you&#8217;d find it utterly ridiculous to do it that way.  The tools for drawing pictures do all the dirty work for you.  You *NEVER* read the file that contains the GIF, PNG or heck, even SVG or PostScript!  At least not unless you a programmer.</p>
<p>So the same analogy applies here.  All the programmer types are whining about &#8216;view source&#8217; because they&#8217;re using shitty tools.  Stop using (or start developing) tools that don&#8217;t let you SEE the DATA in ways it&#8217;s best represented.</p>
<p>But please, spare us this continued nonsensical arguments about human readability.  They&#8217;re just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: *Pixelcharmer: Field Notes</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1719</link>
		<dc:creator>*Pixelcharmer: Field Notes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;XFN&lt;/strong&gt;
Advertise those social ties with XFN (XHTML Friends Network). Eric, Tantek and Matt have created an easy and fun way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>XFN</strong><br />
Advertise those social ties with XFN (XHTML Friends Network). Eric, Tantek and Matt have created an easy and fun way</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1717</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I can explain some of why we used a space-separated value list instead of a more complicated nested-element XML syntax.

We might have represented values as a set of nested elements, and thus followed general XML practices, but that would have had two very significant drawbacks.  The first is that it would make the format less human-readable, and that&#039;s a crucial point.  It was very important to us that an XFN value be human-readable in a glance, and understandable even by people who have never seen XFN before.  The second is that if we&#039;d represented XFN information as elements within the link, it couldn&#039;t have been used in valid HTML documents.  That was also very important, because while XML may be the future, HTML is now, and we wanted something that would work in current documents as well as be easily used in future documents.

Besides, like Matt, I can&#039;t think of too many things that are easier to parse than a space-separated list, and I haven&#039;t been a programmer since the halcyon days of Turbo PASCAL 4.5.  (Before Mosaic, that was.)  I&#039;m not familiar with good XML design practice when it comes to attribute values, I admit-- could you point us to some resources that explain what good and bad XML design practice is, and why the good things are good and the bad things are bad?  I&#039;d find such information useful for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I can explain some of why we used a space-separated value list instead of a more complicated nested-element XML syntax.</p>
<p>We might have represented values as a set of nested elements, and thus followed general XML practices, but that would have had two very significant drawbacks.  The first is that it would make the format less human-readable, and that&#8217;s a crucial point.  It was very important to us that an XFN value be human-readable in a glance, and understandable even by people who have never seen XFN before.  The second is that if we&#8217;d represented XFN information as elements within the link, it couldn&#8217;t have been used in valid HTML documents.  That was also very important, because while XML may be the future, HTML is now, and we wanted something that would work in current documents as well as be easily used in future documents.</p>
<p>Besides, like Matt, I can&#8217;t think of too many things that are easier to parse than a space-separated list, and I haven&#8217;t been a programmer since the halcyon days of Turbo PASCAL 4.5.  (Before Mosaic, that was.)  I&#8217;m not familiar with good XML design practice when it comes to attribute values, I admit&#8211; could you point us to some resources that explain what good and bad XML design practice is, and why the good things are good and the bad things are bad?  I&#8217;d find such information useful for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Lindesay</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Lindesay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And what&#8217;s less parsable about a space-seperated string?&lt;/i&gt;

Didn&#039;t God give us XML and XML parsers so that we didn&#039;t have to use tedious regular expressions? And aren&#039;t regular expressions the one thing in the world that&#039;s harder than RDF! Regarding multiple values in attributes, if you want to ignore good XML design practice then so be it. If you want to make it harder to parse XFN then go ahead ...</description>
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<p>Didn&#8217;t God give us XML and XML parsers so that we didn&#8217;t have to use tedious regular expressions? And aren&#8217;t regular expressions the one thing in the world that&#8217;s harder than RDF! Regarding multiple values in attributes, if you want to ignore good XML design practice then so be it. If you want to make it harder to parse XFN then go ahead &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1708</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amit, great! Let me know when you implement XFN  and I&#039;ll put a link your way.

Victor, I understand RDF syntax, how it works, and its purpose in the larger view of machine-parsable semantic richness, but it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;complicated&lt;/em&gt;. Way too hard. My mom could do XFN by hand, she wouldn&#039;t know where to begin with FOAF. However there&#039;s no reason you &lt;a href=&quot;http://gmpg.org/xfn/xfn-foaf&quot;&gt;can&#039;t do both&lt;/a&gt;. If you have invested the time and effort in making a good FOAF file, XFN should be a &lt;em&gt;breeze&lt;/em&gt;. And what&#039;s less parsable about a space-seperated string? I can grab all the XFN values from a page with one line of regex and maybe an explode statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amit, great! Let me know when you implement XFN  and I&#8217;ll put a link your way.</p>
<p>Victor, I understand RDF syntax, how it works, and its purpose in the larger view of machine-parsable semantic richness, but it&#8217;s <em>complicated</em>. Way too hard. My mom could do XFN by hand, she wouldn&#8217;t know where to begin with FOAF. However there&#8217;s no reason you <a href="http://gmpg.org/xfn/xfn-foaf">can&#8217;t do both</a>. If you have invested the time and effort in making a good FOAF file, XFN should be a <em>breeze</em>. And what&#8217;s less parsable about a space-seperated string? I can grab all the XFN values from a page with one line of regex and maybe an explode statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit Karmakar</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1707</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Karmakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea! I just added the XFN tag to my blog, Go XFN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea! I just added the XFN tag to my blog, Go XFN!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim's Bandwagon</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1706</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim's Bandwagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;XHTML Friends Network&lt;/strong&gt;
I spotted Tantek &#199;elik&#039;s use of the profile attribute a while back. Now, Tantek &#199;elik, Matthew Mullenweg and Eric Meyer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>XHTML Friends Network</strong><br />
I spotted Tantek &#199;elik&#8217;s use of the profile attribute a while back. Now, Tantek &#199;elik, Matthew Mullenweg and Eric Meyer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sarahw</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1705</link>
		<dc:creator>sarahw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yo, so i thought id leave a comment on the entry with the coolest date of the year. ;)  good luck with your finals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yo, so i thought id leave a comment on the entry with the coolest date of the year. <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   good luck with your finals!</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Lindesay</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1703</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Lindesay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... as much I welcome a non RDF alternative to FOAF, is formatting multiple meta-data values as a space delimited string in one attribute value good XML design? Multiple  elements within the  element would be better and easier to process. 
As for the profile, that&#039;s just a schema that describes more highly grained relationships. This can be done equally well in RDF and FOAF. See the Relationships Schema on SchemaWeb or this FOAF.
http://www.perceive.net/xml/foaf.rdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; as much I welcome a non RDF alternative to FOAF, is formatting multiple meta-data values as a space delimited string in one attribute value good XML design? Multiple  elements within the  element would be better and easier to process.<br />
As for the profile, that&#8217;s just a schema that describes more highly grained relationships. This can be done equally well in RDF and FOAF. See the Relationships Schema on SchemaWeb or this FOAF.<br />
<a href="http://www.perceive.net/xml/foaf.rdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.perceive.net/xml/foaf.rdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: kathy</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1702</link>
		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yay, i made it to your timely dozen!  your little trick worked!  thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay, i made it to your timely dozen!  your little trick worked!  thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: tantek/log: XFN</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2003/12/distributed-social-networking-software/#comment-1700</link>
		<dc:creator>tantek/log: XFN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;XFN&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;For more than a year now (most over a year ago now), I&#039;ve been analyzing the markup of blogs, and occasionally writing posts explaining how I think their markup could easily be made &lt;em&gt;simpler&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;smaller&lt;/em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; more &lt;em&gt;semantic&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>XFN</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>For more than a year now (most over a year ago now), I&#8217;ve been analyzing the markup of blogs, and occasionally writing posts explaining how I think their markup could easily be made <em>simpler</em>, <em>smaller</em> <strong>and</strong> more <em>semantic</em>.</p></blockquote>
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