Comments on: A Response http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/ Unlucky in Cards Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:53:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4-alpha-19904 By: aw's blog 姿态永恒 » CSDN的这位编辑同志请尊重版权 http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-415809 aw's blog 姿态永恒 » CSDN的这位编辑同志请尊重版权 Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:04:21 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-415809 [...] 附：当年Matt在Photomatt.net发表的致歉原文，这篇文章后的评论为他重新赢得了尊重。 [...] [...] 附：当年Matt在Photomatt.net发表的致歉原文，这篇文章后的评论为他重新赢得了尊重。 [...]

]]> By: Xavier 2la[peyre] http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-415601 Xavier 2la[peyre] Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:16:26 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-415601 Hi there, I'm like reading a pre-historic blog here... And when I read it now it sounds kinda funny... As a developer I'd like to thank you (and the whole wordpress team) for this awsome web software. Hi there,
I’m like reading a pre-historic blog here…
And when I read it now it sounds kinda funny…

As a developer I’d like to thank you (and the whole wordpress team) for this awsome web software.

]]> By: Jon Wright http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-84795 Jon Wright Tue, 02 May 2006 13:54:40 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-84795 I've obviously read this story a bit late but Wordpress has been a breath of fresh air to both my own blog (04) and our business blogs and long may it continue to be. I'm off to make a donation right now ;-) Jon I’ve obviously read this story a bit late but WordPress has been a breath of fresh air to both my own blog (04) and our business blogs and long may it continue to be.

I’m off to make a donation right now ;-)

Jon

]]> By: blog.forret.com » Blog Archive » Googlistics: messing with the big “G” http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-62522 blog.forret.com » Blog Archive » Googlistics: messing with the big “G” Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:23:02 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-62522 [...] Andy Baio (Waxy) broke the news on March 30th, at a moment when Matt was on holiday (and off-line), so he only replied on April 1st, about a thousand angry emails later. His defense is that it was a interesting idea, badly implemented, not followed up and never evaluated. Since Matt does not have the profile of a cash-hungry opportunist, and he’s explaining this to an audience of people that understand these reasons (reads like an IT project management what-not-to-do list), the storm will probably blow over. [...] [...] Andy Baio (Waxy) broke the news on March 30th, at a moment when Matt was on holiday (and off-line), so he only replied on April 1st, about a thousand angry emails later. His defense is that it was a interesting idea, badly implemented, not followed up and never evaluated. Since Matt does not have the profile of a cash-hungry opportunist, and he’s explaining this to an audience of people that understand these reasons (reads like an IT project management what-not-to-do list), the storm will probably blow over. [...]

]]> By: John http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-46641 John Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:06:38 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-46641 Great work on WordPress! Thanks, Matt! Good job. Great work on WordPress! Thanks, Matt! Good job.

]]> By: bruto » Estos chicos de Wordpress son muy malos http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-40466 bruto » Estos chicos de Wordpress son muy malos Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:50:19 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-40466 [...] Actualización: Los de WordPress responden y se excusan. [...] [...] Actualización: Los de WordPress responden y se excusan. [...]

]]> By: ShoeMoney http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-24081 ShoeMoney Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:01:17 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-24081 I just want to say thank you for making wordpress. I am just getting started but it seems so friendly. I cant wait to check out more of the plugins! I just want to say thank you for making wordpress. I am just getting started but it seems so friendly. I cant wait to check out more of the plugins!

]]> By: Jason Golod http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-23893 Jason Golod Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:54:39 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-23893 Matt, well put. I, like the commenter above, just found out about this whole thing and am a bit surprised that I did not hear about it sooner...but, that just shows you how much there is to read on the internet. :) Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for your work on WP. I have recommended it to countless people and pumped it up on some of the largest forums on the internet for quite a while. I have also created free-for-use software and some open source projects and I admire the way you have handled yourself through this situation. From what I have read, you are not the oldest guy on the block, but from the sounds of it, you are one of the most mature. I wish you continued success with WP and with wherever your dreams take you. Matt, well put. I, like the commenter above, just found out about this whole thing and am a bit surprised that I did not hear about it sooner…but, that just shows you how much there is to read on the internet. :) Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for your work on WP. I have recommended it to countless people and pumped it up on some of the largest forums on the internet for quite a while. I have also created free-for-use software and some open source projects and I admire the way you have handled yourself through this situation. From what I have read, you are not the oldest guy on the block, but from the sounds of it, you are one of the most mature. I wish you continued success with WP and with wherever your dreams take you.

]]> By: Leo http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-22017 Leo Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:05:27 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-22017 I never found out about this. I just read this from a blog I visited, and then got directed to another blog, and then another, etc. This happened in April? Wow! I don't really think it's that bad. It was all negative advertising, what people did (telling everyone about this issue without asking first, I mean). In the end, just two things are important: 1. The software was not touched, so nothing could possibly harm the users. 2. Before doing something in a community-based project, even if you're the head of it, you must talk about it and ask. Doing things behind people's back won't do any good, especially if you want to continue working with the team. I used WordPress for a while, it wasn't for me, but I recommend it to anyone. It's very flexible! :) Cheers and hope everything turned out all right! I never found out about this. I just read this from a blog I visited, and then got directed to another blog, and then another, etc. This happened in April? Wow!
I don’t really think it’s that bad. It was all negative advertising, what people did (telling everyone about this issue without asking first, I mean).
In the end, just two things are important:
1. The software was not touched, so nothing could possibly harm the users.
2. Before doing something in a community-based project, even if you’re the head of it, you must talk about it and ask. Doing things behind people’s back won’t do any good, especially if you want to continue working with the team.
I used WordPress for a while, it wasn’t for me, but I recommend it to anyone. It’s very flexible! :) Cheers and hope everything turned out all right!

]]> By: Nadeem http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-21023 Nadeem Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:40:16 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-21023 Well written and straight to the post. I think you deserve to make money, good money, from your endeavours with WP. Have never taken this non-profit open-software stuff to heart. There's a limit to how much we can do without making money from it. I worked for years for religious publications; packed it in when I realised that I barely had any money for anything and turned to commercial projects, making money online from my websites. Well written and straight to the post. I think you deserve to make money, good money, from your endeavours with WP. Have never taken this non-profit open-software stuff to heart. There’s a limit to how much we can do without making money from it. I worked for years for religious publications; packed it in when I realised that I barely had any money for anything and turned to commercial projects, making money online from my websites.

]]> By: KrazyKid http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-20576 KrazyKid Wed, 18 May 2005 05:21:03 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-20576 Great job on WP Matt. Free software is good enough, but opensource rocks :) Great job on WP Matt. Free software is good enough, but opensource rocks :)

]]> By: Incoherent Ramblings » Blog Archive » 7 April Podcast http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-20172 Incoherent Ramblings » Blog Archive » 7 April Podcast Thu, 12 May 2005 09:51:38 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-20172 [...] fore calling it a night.. Goodies: Matt’s take on the ‘google affair’ # Mark Jen’s new blog # Podcastin’ Paris # Arstechnica article # Rockin’ toones # [...] [...] fore calling it a night.. Goodies: Matt’s take on the ‘google affair’ # Mark Jen’s new blog # Podcastin’ Paris # Arstechnica article # Rockin’ toones # [...]

]]> By: Angsuman Chakraborty http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-20058 Angsuman Chakraborty Mon, 09 May 2005 05:37:23 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-20058 I would just say mistakes happens to the best also. I am glad to see this passed over and things are back to normal. Unfortunately such issues get blown out of proportion on what should be just a google issue, because Google is the de-facto standard on web search. You aptly said you can know your true friends only in times of crisis. Have you considered other advertising options like BlogAds, AdBrite etc. ? So when is next version of WordPress coming(hope you don't stick so rigorously with the forced nofollow on comments this time)? I would just say mistakes happens to the best also. I am glad to see this passed over and things are back to normal. Unfortunately such issues get blown out of proportion on what should be just a google issue, because Google is the de-facto standard on web search.

You aptly said you can know your true friends only in times of crisis.

Have you considered other advertising options like BlogAds, AdBrite etc. ?

So when is next version of WordPress coming(hope you don’t stick so rigorously with the forced nofollow on comments this time)?

]]> By: Memory for Me » Okay, so whoever is responsible for Wordpress.org blundered http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-20010 Memory for Me » Okay, so whoever is responsible for Wordpress.org blundered Thu, 05 May 2005 11:37:24 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-20010 [...] her rational head that actually has worked with the developer. Update April 1st: Matt has responded, which personally satisfies ME whatever it does to anyone else. > Current mood: ann [...] [...] her rational head that actually has worked with the developer. Update April 1st: Matt has responded, which personally satisfies ME whatever it does to anyone else. > Current mood: ann [...]

]]> By: Mike Lambert’s Essays » PageRank 2.0 http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-20009 Mike Lambert’s Essays » PageRank 2.0 Thu, 05 May 2005 06:17:22 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-20009 [...] ates, in an effort to make money. (If you missed it, here’s the original story , and WordPress’s response .) The key here was in a series of links on the Wordpress homepag [...] [...] ates, in an effort to make money. (If you missed it, here’s the original story , and WordPress’s response .) The key here was in a series of links on the WordPress homepag [...]

]]> By: Jack Tors http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-20005 Jack Tors Wed, 04 May 2005 18:43:27 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-20005 It's astounding how many people really don't have lives. Sweet Jesus, if you actually spent more than 30 seconds worrying about this, you really need to get out more. Matt, keep up the great work. It’s astounding how many people really don’t have lives. Sweet Jesus, if you actually spent more than 30 seconds worrying about this, you really need to get out more.

Matt, keep up the great work.

]]> By: Metaplanar Babel » Wordpress scandal, and all that jazz~ http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-19993 Metaplanar Babel » Wordpress scandal, and all that jazz~ Tue, 03 May 2005 13:21:56 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-19993 [...] I wasn’t really paying much attention this weekend so I missed it, but here’s the “official” response. You may want to read this first for a little background. I&# [...] [...] I wasn’t really paying much attention this weekend so I missed it, but here’s the “official” response. You may want to read this first for a little background. I&# [...]

]]> By: Cosmos http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-19477 Cosmos Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:26:17 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-19477 Hello Andy, thanks for helping make Word Press. I can NOT believe that it's free! I have been using it for a few months now and love it. However you want to make money is fine by me. Can't wait for the future. Hello Andy, thanks for helping make Word Press. I can NOT believe that it’s free! I have been using it for a few months now and love it. However you want to make money is fine by me. Can’t wait for the future.

]]> By: Angsuman Chakraborty http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-19284 Angsuman Chakraborty Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:34:11 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-19284 Hi, I am using WordPress for sometime for blog.taragana.com and hotjobs.taragana.com. I have written, responded in your support forums, wrote few plugins and hacks, but never communicated with you before. I think you have done a wonderful job with WordPress. It is a good piece of software, something that forced me to learn php in depth :) I think lot of people are overreacting to this issue. At the core two issues were raised: 1. Hosting certain articles on WP site and 2. Hiding them from normal users using CSS. I think you have nothing to answer for hosting any articles on your site. It doesn't matter whether the same site also hosts an open source projects. This is a non-issue. The second is not a legal offense either. People think it is an offense because all-mighty google has decided that providing different content to search engines is an offense. Frankly I think it is a problem that should be addressed algorithmically by google. I really don't see why people would resort to personal attacks against you for this. The fact that the articles have been removed effectively closes the issue. Wish you strength in overcoming this issue with your head held high. ciao, Angsuman Hi,

I am using WordPress for sometime for blog.taragana.com and hotjobs.taragana.com. I have written, responded in your support forums, wrote few plugins and hacks, but never communicated with you before.

I think you have done a wonderful job with WordPress. It is a good piece of software, something that forced me to learn php in depth :)

I think lot of people are overreacting to this issue. At the core two issues were raised: 1. Hosting certain articles on WP site and 2. Hiding them from normal users using CSS.

I think you have nothing to answer for hosting any articles on your site. It doesn’t matter whether the same site also hosts an open source projects. This is a non-issue.

The second is not a legal offense either. People think it is an offense because all-mighty google has decided that providing different content to search engines is an offense. Frankly I think it is a problem that should be addressed algorithmically by google. I really don’t see why people would resort to personal attacks against you for this.

The fact that the articles have been removed effectively closes the issue.

Wish you strength in overcoming this issue with your head held high.

ciao,
Angsuman

]]> By: Lorelle http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-19274 Lorelle Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:48:22 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-19274 Welcome back and thanks for the help understanding this issue better. And thanks for the kudos for the work on the Forums and Codex. I don't get involved lightly, in any organization, and I'm very impressed with the work of everyone I've come in contact with as part of the WordPress Community, including yourself, Podz, Craig, Carthik, and....well, it's a very long list of amazing people. Good work is being done here, folks. Let's stick with the positive attitude on all of it and make it even better because of the rumours and scorn. Onward! Welcome back and thanks for the help understanding this issue better.

And thanks for the kudos for the work on the Forums and Codex. I don’t get involved lightly, in any organization, and I’m very impressed with the work of everyone I’ve come in contact with as part of the WordPress Community, including yourself, Podz, Craig, Carthik, and….well, it’s a very long list of amazing people.

Good work is being done here, folks. Let’s stick with the positive attitude on all of it and make it even better because of the rumours and scorn. Onward!

]]> By: Tim http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-19251 Tim Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:48:44 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-19251 For those those interested Chad Jones "owner of HotNacho.com and the source of this fracas." (quoted), has reponded to all this as well. Helps add perspective. http://hotnacho.com/wordpress-fracas/ For those those interested Chad Jones “owner of HotNacho.com and the source of this fracas.” (quoted), has reponded to all this as well. Helps add perspective.
http://hotnacho.com/wordpress-fracas/

]]> By: Jeff http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-19076 Jeff Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:51:49 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-19076 Matt... I've written you personally but wanted to say publicly that you are the man. I've got all the respect in the world for how you've carried yourself. As someone who's watching from afar, I feel you are full of good character and the right kind of attitude. You've got humility and steadfast determination (which is a rare combination) and I'm proud to be a very small part of this great community. Keep going and I hope this work continues to be very rewarding to you in many ways. As for any further criticism you may receive, remember that many times criticism says more about the people making the accusations than it does about the person it is directed to. Carpe Diem, Jeff Matt…

I’ve written you personally but wanted to say publicly that you are the man. I’ve got all the respect in the world for how you’ve carried yourself. As someone who’s watching from afar, I feel you are full of good character and the right kind of attitude. You’ve got humility and steadfast determination (which is a rare combination) and I’m proud to be a very small part of this great community. Keep going and I hope this work continues to be very rewarding to you in many ways.

As for any further criticism you may receive, remember that many times criticism says more about the people making the accusations than it does about the person it is directed to.

Carpe Diem,

Jeff

]]> By: Elliott Bäck http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-19064 Elliott Bäck Wed, 06 Apr 2005 08:40:14 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-19064 @Dave, everyone has a right to their opinion. I don't think the "if you don't agree with me, shut up" philosophy is going to get you very far in life. @Dave, everyone has a right to their opinion. I don’t think the “if you don’t agree with me, shut up” philosophy is going to get you very far in life.

]]> By: Michael Hatley http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-19059 Michael Hatley Wed, 06 Apr 2005 04:08:43 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-19059 Guerrilla marketing be damned when you have controversy to work with - the chatter generated by this will do nothing but help you, especially if google stays nice. Karma (or whatever you personally call it) doesn't go away. Suggest you bite the bullet and send all proceeds to a worthy charity for a coupla months, have a public poll for it or the like. Even better, build in some sort of function of WP so that WP users can pick where a tiny portion goes based on referrals or something - and make it be something that the non profit community can re-use to great effect. Speaking in generalities - but highly recommend you do something that helps charity. Will make people love you and make you love you, win win. Guerrilla marketing be damned when you have controversy to work with – the chatter generated by this will do nothing but help you, especially if google stays nice.

Karma (or whatever you personally call it) doesn’t go away. Suggest you bite the bullet and send all proceeds to a worthy charity for a coupla months, have a public poll for it or the like. Even better, build in some sort of function of WP so that WP users can pick where a tiny portion goes based on referrals or something – and make it be something that the non profit community can re-use to great effect.

Speaking in generalities – but highly recommend you do something that helps charity. Will make people love you and make you love you, win win.

]]> By: Mod Chip http://ma.tt/2005/04/a-response/#comment-19057 Mod Chip Wed, 06 Apr 2005 03:35:44 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2005/04/01/a-response-to-the-noise/#comment-19057 I would have to say, let this whole thing rest. An experiment is an experiment and WordPress has worked to be FREE, without nag screens or donation requests. We've all had the benefit of using it for so long now, and have had the pleasure of knowing we can always expect and receive updates as they are available. Nothing wrong with a little bit of testing or trying to obtain some type of revenue stream - however large or small that would be. It's just my opinion, but I think a Valid One. I would have to say, let this whole thing rest. An experiment is an experiment and WordPress has worked to be FREE, without nag screens or donation requests. We’ve all had the benefit of using it for so long now, and have had the pleasure of knowing we can always expect and receive updates as they are available. Nothing wrong with a little bit of testing or trying to obtain some type of revenue stream – however large or small that would be.

It’s just my opinion, but I think a Valid One.

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