Comments on: IE7 on New Sonys http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/ Unlucky in Cards Sat, 26 May 2012 13:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4-beta4-20941 By: Matt http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-152338 Matt Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:30:37 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-152338 On the download page when you hover over a link all the content disappears. On the download page when you hover over a link all the content disappears.

]]> By: Mark http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-152071 Mark Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:50:22 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-152071 I just tested wordpress.org on Browsercam, after having tested my site when you worried me with this lol. Looks fine? Where's the havoc wreakage? I just tested wordpress.org on Browsercam, after having tested my site when you worried me with this lol. Looks fine? Where’s the havoc wreakage?

]]> By: ::wendy:: http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-151232 ::wendy:: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 05:55:15 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-151232 I've got a gorgeous little pink sony fj series. Yummy. Installed IE7.0 beta-2 a couple of weeks ago, no noticable problems with wordpress usage, though I got a bit confused when I updated to wordpress 2.04 using it (turned out not to be an IE issue). But you really should be testing with it for the automatic update deployment from microsoft which will happen soon. I’ve got a gorgeous little pink sony fj series. Yummy. Installed IE7.0 beta-2 a couple of weeks ago, no noticable problems with wordpress usage, though I got a bit confused when I updated to wordpress 2.04 using it (turned out not to be an IE issue). But you really should be testing with it for the automatic update deployment from microsoft which will happen soon.

]]> By: Irish John http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-150254 Irish John Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:53:15 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-150254 Seeing as IE is still by far the most used browser, if you want to alienate the majority of users, go ahead. I would rather get it to work with them all. Mozilla would be fine if they would fix the same problem IE used to be... a resource hog that doesn't release memory. Seeing as IE is still by far the most used browser, if you want to alienate the majority of users, go ahead. I would rather get it to work with them all.

Mozilla would be fine if they would fix the same problem IE used to be… a resource hog that doesn’t release memory.

]]> By: Sarah http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-150161 Sarah Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:46:49 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-150161 I use Opera 9 (beta version, because I can't get the new 9 to override the beta, LOL), and adore it. BUT! The only way to get anything to look right in all browsers is to have it xHTML valid. The major problem with a lot of the WP sites that look like crap in IE or any other browser is the simple fact that they haven't checked for xHTML validity. If they do that, unless they've got an extremely long word or large graphic, the site will look nearly identical in all browsers. I use Opera 9 (beta version, because I can’t get the new 9 to override the beta, LOL), and adore it. BUT! The only way to get anything to look right in all browsers is to have it xHTML valid. The major problem with a lot of the WP sites that look like crap in IE or any other browser is the simple fact that they haven’t checked for xHTML validity. If they do that, unless they’ve got an extremely long word or large graphic, the site will look nearly identical in all browsers.

]]> By: Klark http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-150119 Klark Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:33:52 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-150119 He said the demo models had IE7. Suddenly, in someone's infinite wisdom, this morphed into Sony installing IE7 by default on new machines. why don't people read? He said the demo models had IE7. Suddenly, in someone’s infinite wisdom, this morphed into Sony installing IE7 by default on new machines.

why don’t people read?

]]> By: Keith http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149540 Keith Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:09:52 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149540 There have been quite a number of problems with IE 7, since it is still under beta development. Normally, I keep a copy of Firefox along with me as well, just in case IE 7 fails to render page correctly, just like <a href="http://www.softsift.com" rel="nofollow">this one</a>. No doubt IE has been the most used browser in the world, but lately, <a href="http://keith.hostmatrix.org" rel="nofollow">the improvement</a> has been really poor. Firefox, on the other hand has been catching up. Though I never really fancy Opera, but <a href="http://keith.hostmatrix.org/testbed" rel="nofollow">Opera 9</a> has been known to perform far much better than IE or Firefox. There have been quite a number of problems with IE 7, since it is still under beta development. Normally, I keep a copy of Firefox along with me as well, just in case IE 7 fails to render page correctly, just like this one.

No doubt IE has been the most used browser in the world, but lately, the improvement has been really poor. Firefox, on the other hand has been catching up. Though I never really fancy Opera, but Opera 9 has been known to perform far much better than IE or Firefox.

]]> By: » IE7 beta on new Sony PCs | Hardware 2.0 | ZDNet.com http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149475 » IE7 beta on new Sony PCs | Hardware 2.0 | ZDNet.com Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:37:19 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149475 [...] Anyone able to confirm the story that I've been coming across that Sony is shipping new PCs with IE7 beta installed on them as the default browser?  Seems like a move that could cause a lot of tech support calls to me. [...] [...] Anyone able to confirm the story that I’ve been coming across that Sony is shipping new PCs with IE7 beta installed on them as the default browser?  Seems like a move that could cause a lot of tech support calls to me. [...]

]]> By: Sony already shipping Internet Explorer 7 » The PC Doctor http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149465 Sony already shipping Internet Explorer 7 » The PC Doctor Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:24:41 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149465 [...] Sony is shipping Internet Explorer 7 beta  as default browser on PCs: [...] [...] Sony is shipping Internet Explorer 7 beta  as default browser on PCs: [...]

]]> By: JDS http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149459 JDS Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:15:21 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149459 I have an Intel MacBook 15", black. It is very very very nice. Hardware-wise. (And OSX is allright, I s'pose). I routinely get 4 hours battery life, and frankly, in on-and-off usage I can leave the thing unplugged almost all day. It is very small, sleek, kinda on the light side (well, middleweight), and attractive, and has a really cool magnetic power plug. Maybe I haven't owned enough laptops but I can't imagine a better notebook. And OSX is good enough that I don't even have to install Linux :) In any case, just my $0.02US on the MacBook. Now, as a web developer, I am dreading the day when MS pushes IE7 onto everything. Dread.... Woe.... It's coming soon, too. So much for those IE I have an Intel MacBook 15″, black. It is very very very nice. Hardware-wise. (And OSX is allright, I s’pose). I routinely get 4 hours battery life, and frankly, in on-and-off usage I can leave the thing unplugged almost all day. It is very small, sleek, kinda on the light side (well, middleweight), and attractive, and has a really cool magnetic power plug.

Maybe I haven’t owned enough laptops but I can’t imagine a better notebook. And OSX is good enough that I don’t even have to install Linux :)

In any case, just my $0.02US on the MacBook.

Now, as a web developer, I am dreading the day when MS pushes IE7 onto everything. Dread…. Woe…. It’s coming soon, too. So much for those IE

]]> By: chris hradil http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149410 chris hradil Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:11:09 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149410 I've installed and uninstalled IE7 a couple of times, for a 'standards compliant' browser it certainly has had more than it's share of issues rendering things correctly. At this writing it seems they've worked out most of the major 'quirks'. It this point I'd say the responsibility lies squarely with developers to deliver clean standards compliant code (to both firefox and IE) including any javascript implemented, and the browsers should be able to handle the rest. I’ve installed and uninstalled IE7 a couple of times, for a ‘standards compliant’ browser it certainly has had more than it’s share of issues rendering things correctly. At this writing it seems they’ve worked out most of the major ‘quirks’. It this point I’d say the responsibility lies squarely with developers to deliver clean standards compliant code (to both firefox and IE) including any javascript implemented, and the browsers should be able to handle the rest.

]]> By: Rich Boakes http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149384 Rich Boakes Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:33:40 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149384 Laptop-wise, I find the wobble test is the most effective selector of laptop. Find a few that appear to have the spec you need, then poke the top corner of the screen. If it wobbles about, forget it. If it stays put and looks at your feeble finger as if to say "don't push me, fool" then you know it's well constructed. This simple test makes shop owners furrow their brow in confusion, for often they do not comprehend that laptops are used in cars, in trains, on planes and even on laps, where there is movement. IMO The hands down winner for the wobbly screen test has (for the last 10 years) been the IBM ThinkPad (I've owned HP, Dell (x2), Compaq and IBM (x2)). It remains to be seen if the transfer of the business to Lenovo will result in a lower quality solution, because the older models are head and shoulders above the plastic tat that many vendors ship. Laptop-wise, I find the wobble test is the most effective selector of laptop. Find a few that appear to have the spec you need, then poke the top corner of the screen. If it wobbles about, forget it. If it stays put and looks at your feeble finger as if to say “don’t push me, fool” then you know it’s well constructed.

This simple test makes shop owners furrow their brow in confusion, for often they do not comprehend that laptops are used in cars, in trains, on planes and even on laps, where there is movement. IMO The hands down winner for the wobbly screen test has (for the last 10 years) been the IBM ThinkPad (I’ve owned HP, Dell (x2), Compaq and IBM (x2)).

It remains to be seen if the transfer of the business to Lenovo will result in a lower quality solution, because the older models are head and shoulders above the plastic tat that many vendors ship.

]]> By: Rich Boakes http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149378 Rich Boakes Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:26:42 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149378 MS have stated that the release version will have no new CSS features or fixes, so it is safe to test with the (reassuringly non-standards-compliant) beta that is out now. MS have stated that the release version will have no new CSS features or fixes, so it is safe to test with the (reassuringly non-standards-compliant) beta that is out now.

]]> By: Jeremy Wright http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149302 Jeremy Wright Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:23:23 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149302 I just picked up a new Sony ZD260. Great little beast. However, it didn't have IE7 preinstalled. No new Sony's do. It might have just been an in-store decision :) I just picked up a new Sony ZD260. Great little beast. However, it didn’t have IE7 preinstalled. No new Sony’s do. It might have just been an in-store decision :)

]]> By: Romerican http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149272 Romerican Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:36:36 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149272 First generation MacBooks are having a few problems, which is not unheard of in the Apple universe. There are enough frustrated repair/replacments going on which warrant waiting for Apple to get it right in the second generation release, again a common theme known to the Mac faithful. As for Sony, I haven't a clue. For any Windows or Linux notebook, you'd be far better off having a custom made solution to fit your needs -- that's the point of all the choices! First generation MacBooks are having a few problems, which is not unheard of in the Apple universe. There are enough frustrated repair/replacments going on which warrant waiting for Apple to get it right in the second generation release, again a common theme known to the Mac faithful.

As for Sony, I haven’t a clue. For any Windows or Linux notebook, you’d be far better off having a custom made solution to fit your needs — that’s the point of all the choices!

]]> By: Oliver http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149269 Oliver Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:28:21 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149269 That would be it's fabled sub-pixel rendering... That would be it’s fabled sub-pixel rendering…

]]> By: Elliott Back http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149044 Elliott Back Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:44:49 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-149044 I've got the latest IE7 and it still doesn't render things quite right. It also does a weird anti-aliasing thing that totally ruins scriptaculous js effects. I’ve got the latest IE7 and it still doesn’t render things quite right. It also does a weird anti-aliasing thing that totally ruins scriptaculous js effects.

]]> By: Joe Clark http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148978 Joe Clark Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:39:51 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148978 I thought WP was so rational from a markup standpoint that any modern browser could render it, even Safari with its oddball JavaScript. Nu? I thought WP was so rational from a markup standpoint that any modern browser could render it, even Safari with its oddball JavaScript. Nu?

]]> By: Chris Samuel http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148963 Chris Samuel Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:12:43 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148963 Personally I don't care very much what happens with IE7. There's only so much time you can spend banging your head against a brick wall to support legacy systems. :-( I do try and make my own WP site work reasonably well with IE but I'd much rather just point IE users to a working browser like Firefox instead. Personally I don’t care very much what happens with IE7. There’s only so much time you can spend banging your head against a brick wall to support legacy systems. :-(

I do try and make my own WP site work reasonably well with IE but I’d much rather just point IE users to a working browser like Firefox instead.

]]> By: brendan http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148886 brendan Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:38:12 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148886 IE7 will be deployed as an update via Microsoft Update, thus a large number of machines will have it once it goes gold (which, irrc, is not far away). It's been around for a while, I'm surprised you haven't been on top of that Matt, how un-geek of you. :) IE7 will be deployed as an update via Microsoft Update, thus a large number of machines will have it once it goes gold (which, irrc, is not far away). It’s been around for a while, I’m surprised you haven’t been on top of that Matt, how un-geek of you. :)

]]> By: Matt http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148881 Matt Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:28:59 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148881 For me, Sonys have had the best combination of form factor, battery life, and features. I own a powerbook and a mac mini, they just don't get as much use. To me the operating system isn't as important (as long as it works) because I spend my whole day in editors and web apps anyway. For me, Sonys have had the best combination of form factor, battery life, and features. I own a powerbook and a mac mini, they just don’t get as much use. To me the operating system isn’t as important (as long as it works) because I spend my whole day in editors and web apps anyway.

]]> By: Lloyd D Budd http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148867 Lloyd D Budd Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:51:52 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148867 Why Sony? Thinkpad or Apple are the way to go. Why Sony? Thinkpad or Apple are the way to go.

]]> By: Hanni http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148840 Hanni Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:07:31 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148840 I'm curious, Matt, what makes you want to go for a Sony, over say, a Macbook? I'm no mac zealot, I'm just having to make a similar decision myself at the moment and would love to hear your thoughts! I’m curious, Matt, what makes you want to go for a Sony, over say, a Macbook?

I’m no mac zealot, I’m just having to make a similar decision myself at the moment and would love to hear your thoughts!

]]> By: Rick Beckman http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148775 Rick Beckman Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:22:03 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148775 BETA software as default? How Web 2.0 of them. BETA software as default? How Web 2.0 of them.

]]> By: Bugs Are Mandatory at Writer’s Blog http://ma.tt/2006/08/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148769 Bugs Are Mandatory at Writer’s Blog Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:02:19 +0000 http://photomatt.net/2006/08/03/ie7-on-new-sonys/#comment-148769 [...] Apparently, Windows Vista is really buggy and IE7 is a steaming pile of crap. Anyone surprised by this? [...] [...] Apparently, Windows Vista is really buggy and IE7 is a steaming pile of crap. Anyone surprised by this? [...]

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