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	<title>Comments on: Identicons from Gravatar</title>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-449713</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could someone please write a plugin that causes WordPress to generate Identicons from IP addresses, rather than the email addresses people supply?

I like it much better when multiple comments from the same computer get the same graphic, and where it is harder for commenters to get a new one just by putting something different in the email box.

Many thanks,

Milan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone please write a plugin that causes WordPress to generate Identicons from IP addresses, rather than the email addresses people supply?</p>
<p>I like it much better when multiple comments from the same computer get the same graphic, and where it is harder for commenters to get a new one just by putting something different in the email box.</p>
<p>Many thanks,</p>
<p>Milan</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-443026</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 09:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - I think you&#039;ve missed the whole concept of how this works.

The identicons are built into Gravatar, there is no need for a plugin to use them. They work with a default WordPress install and they&#039;re generated from the email address, not the IP address. You encrypt the email address before sending it to gravatar which sends back the associated image. In the case of identicons, it sends back an image based on the email address. SInce the IP address is never sent, there is no way the image could be based on that.

There are instructions on how to do this on the Gravatar site. Matt probably has some links to it above too (I haven&#039;t checked).

&lt;a href=&quot;http://pixopoint.com/forum/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My new support forum&lt;/a&gt; which uses these is now live. They seem to be working quite well. I was expecting some questions from users by now about why on earth they have a crazy looking little monster beside their posts, but as yet no one has questioned it.

It has been a handy way to add an easy method of identifying posts whilst skim reading. I get a lot of one off posts in my forum and I doubt anyone would bother to enter an avatar for a single post, so having the gravatars for some and little monsters for everyone else has been quite helpful. It adds a nice personalisation to each persons posts and aids in remembering them when they post on another part of the forum.

Do any of you know of any other examples of these being used on a forum? I haven&#039;t found any but am assuming I&#039;m not the first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; I think you&#8217;ve missed the whole concept of how this works.</p>
<p>The identicons are built into Gravatar, there is no need for a plugin to use them. They work with a default WordPress install and they&#8217;re generated from the email address, not the IP address. You encrypt the email address before sending it to gravatar which sends back the associated image. In the case of identicons, it sends back an image based on the email address. SInce the IP address is never sent, there is no way the image could be based on that.</p>
<p>There are instructions on how to do this on the Gravatar site. Matt probably has some links to it above too (I haven&#8217;t checked).</p>
<p><a href="http://pixopoint.com/forum/" rel="nofollow">My new support forum</a> which uses these is now live. They seem to be working quite well. I was expecting some questions from users by now about why on earth they have a crazy looking little monster beside their posts, but as yet no one has questioned it.</p>
<p>It has been a handy way to add an easy method of identifying posts whilst skim reading. I get a lot of one off posts in my forum and I doubt anyone would bother to enter an avatar for a single post, so having the gravatars for some and little monsters for everyone else has been quite helpful. It adds a nice personalisation to each persons posts and aids in remembering them when they post on another part of the forum.</p>
<p>Do any of you know of any other examples of these being used on a forum? I haven&#8217;t found any but am assuming I&#8217;m not the first.</p>
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		<title>By: Claude Gelinas</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442665</link>
		<dc:creator>Claude Gelinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gravatars rock... and now, they rock even more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravatars rock&#8230; and now, they rock even more!</p>
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		<title>By: Polent</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442654</link>
		<dc:creator>Polent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test it! 8-) FuN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Test it! <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> FuN!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442625</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, the Identicon is derived from the IP address, so spammers run out of those pretty quick (home, work, etc.). Dial-up and the like will somewhat defeat this, but in general, same Identicon, same person, same person, one Identicon.

Between sites this doesn&#039;t work, because you can set the way the Identicon is generated (number of squares, colors, etc.).

The built-in Gravitar service is only used for Gravitars, not Identicons. I think we can take Matt&#039;s infatuation with Identicons as a sign that they will be integrated into WordPress in the future, but for now you need the Identicon plug-in, which has had Gravitar support for quite a while, allowing you to use Identicons as a Gravitar fall-back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, the Identicon is derived from the IP address, so spammers run out of those pretty quick (home, work, etc.). Dial-up and the like will somewhat defeat this, but in general, same Identicon, same person, same person, one Identicon.</p>
<p>Between sites this doesn&#8217;t work, because you can set the way the Identicon is generated (number of squares, colors, etc.).</p>
<p>The built-in Gravitar service is only used for Gravitars, not Identicons. I think we can take Matt&#8217;s infatuation with Identicons as a sign that they will be integrated into WordPress in the future, but for now you need the Identicon plug-in, which has had Gravitar support for quite a while, allowing you to use Identicons as a Gravitar fall-back.</p>
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		<title>By: Kreky</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442606</link>
		<dc:creator>Kreky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.. great..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.. great..</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442599</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - How on earth do identicons help identify spammers? And if you use the built in Gravatar service like Matt is here, the server load will be eliminated as they won&#039;t be processed by your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; How on earth do identicons help identify spammers? And if you use the built in Gravatar service like Matt is here, the server load will be eliminated as they won&#8217;t be processed by your site.</p>
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		<title>By: Catshade</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442569</link>
		<dc:creator>Catshade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The graphic&#039;s cool and fractal-like. I hope this will be implemented in WP.com soon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The graphic&#8217;s cool and fractal-like. I hope this will be implemented in WP.com soon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: beers</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442567</link>
		<dc:creator>beers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s try it! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s try it! <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lawless</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442559</link>
		<dc:creator>lawless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who&#039;s not feeling the whole Gravatar thing?

I&#039;m not interested in tying comments in with shitty quality MicePace photos, that may or may not have anything to do with the actual commenter. 

On sites with an hefty heaping of comments it just drags the page-load time down needlessly. 

To me it&#039;s one of those things that seemed pretty cool at first but gets old really fast.

/rant

With that said, if we could somehow use an animated GIF of a dancing banana I may come around on the whole Gravatar thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who&#8217;s not feeling the whole Gravatar thing?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in tying comments in with shitty quality MicePace photos, that may or may not have anything to do with the actual commenter. </p>
<p>On sites with an hefty heaping of comments it just drags the page-load time down needlessly. </p>
<p>To me it&#8217;s one of those things that seemed pretty cool at first but gets old really fast.</p>
<p>/rant</p>
<p>With that said, if we could somehow use an animated GIF of a dancing banana I may come around on the whole Gravatar thing.</p>
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		<title>By: karramarro</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442555</link>
		<dc:creator>karramarro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I make the same in my blog with Gravatars 2
If someone doesn&#039;t have gravatar I use some funny pictures ;)
Example:
http://www.papelcontinuo.net/599/libros-didacticos-plesa-sm/#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I make the same in my blog with Gravatars 2<br />
If someone doesn&#8217;t have gravatar I use some funny pictures <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Example:<br />
<a href="http://www.papelcontinuo.net/599/libros-didacticos-plesa-sm/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.papelcontinuo.net/599/libros-didacticos-plesa-sm/#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442551</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of identicons is to expose people who post multiple comments under fake names, without exposing IP addresses. They&#039;ve really reduced the crap at our blog. However, they put a load on the server, despite the fact that they are cached. We can&#039;t figure it out, but on days we activate the plug-in, our server craps out during the noonday rush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of identicons is to expose people who post multiple comments under fake names, without exposing IP addresses. They&#8217;ve really reduced the crap at our blog. However, they put a load on the server, despite the fact that they are cached. We can&#8217;t figure it out, but on days we activate the plug-in, our server craps out during the noonday rush.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442545</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mare - if the commenter doesn&#039;t like the image, they can just upload their own gravatar.

Charles - gravatars are the little images beside everyones comments here on Matt&#039;s blog. Identicons/wavatars are the little geometric shapes which are displayed when someone hasn&#039;t associated an image with their email address at gravatar.com.

Bryan - Perhaps it would be possible to display an identicon and underneath that, have a small linked text saying &quot;No gravatar&quot;? That way you could have the benefit of the identicon, but with the handy tip for your commenters on how to get one - I suspect that many simply don&#039;t know what gravatar is (yet). I&#039;m not sure how you would detect in advance if an email address was gravatar enabled or not though, but if it is possible, then I think that would be a good idea. Matt, do you know if this is possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mare &#8211; if the commenter doesn&#8217;t like the image, they can just upload their own gravatar.</p>
<p>Charles &#8211; gravatars are the little images beside everyones comments here on Matt&#8217;s blog. Identicons/wavatars are the little geometric shapes which are displayed when someone hasn&#8217;t associated an image with their email address at gravatar.com.</p>
<p>Bryan &#8211; Perhaps it would be possible to display an identicon and underneath that, have a small linked text saying &#8220;No gravatar&#8221;? That way you could have the benefit of the identicon, but with the handy tip for your commenters on how to get one &#8211; I suspect that many simply don&#8217;t know what gravatar is (yet). I&#8217;m not sure how you would detect in advance if an email address was gravatar enabled or not though, but if it is possible, then I think that would be a good idea. Matt, do you know if this is possible?</p>
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		<title>By: Anyone know what a wavatar is? - Web Development Forum</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442544</link>
		<dc:creator>Anyone know what a wavatar is? - Web Development Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for when there&#039;s no gravatar associated with an email address. For example, go look at a post on Matt Mullenwegs blog. If you scroll through the comments, you will see that some of the blog comments have regular [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for when there&#8217;s no gravatar associated with an email address. For example, go look at a post on Matt Mullenwegs blog. If you scroll through the comments, you will see that some of the blog comments have regular [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442543</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin Paquet - Try this link ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://scott.sherrillmix.com/blog/blogger/wp_identicon/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WP Identicons&lt;/a&gt;


These identicons aren&#039;t just useful for blogs either, they have uses for lots of other things too. I&#039;m making use of them on a new forum which I have under construction at the moment ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://pixopoint.com/forum/index.php?topic=44.0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pixo Point forum&lt;/a&gt;

Thank you very much for pointing this feature out Matt. I had never even thought of this concept before. The only solution I had for dealing with non gravatar/avatar people was to leave a bland default image for them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Paquet &#8211; Try this link &#8230; <a href="http://scott.sherrillmix.com/blog/blogger/wp_identicon/" rel="nofollow">WP Identicons</a></p>
<p>These identicons aren&#8217;t just useful for blogs either, they have uses for lots of other things too. I&#8217;m making use of them on a new forum which I have under construction at the moment &#8230; <a href="http://pixopoint.com/forum/index.php?topic=44.0" rel="nofollow">Pixo Point forum</a></p>
<p>Thank you very much for pointing this feature out Matt. I had never even thought of this concept before. The only solution I had for dealing with non gravatar/avatar people was to leave a bland default image for them all.</p>
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		<title>By: Artz</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442537</link>
		<dc:creator>Artz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job!
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job!<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: ketsugi</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442528</link>
		<dc:creator>ketsugi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, never mind. I just realised that the Identicon changes patterns according to the email address provided and is consistent to the email address, allowing for a generated unique and consistently identifiable gravatar for users who don&#039;t have their own. I suppose that might be useful. I prefer using a default to force a stigma of banality on users who don&#039;t have a proper gravatar. &gt;_&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, never mind. I just realised that the Identicon changes patterns according to the email address provided and is consistent to the email address, allowing for a generated unique and consistently identifiable gravatar for users who don&#8217;t have their own. I suppose that might be useful. I prefer using a default to force a stigma of banality on users who don&#8217;t have a proper gravatar. &gt;_&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: ketsugi</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442527</link>
		<dc:creator>ketsugi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@scott johnson: You&#039;ve always been able to define a custom default gravatar, so I&#039;m really unsure why this is useful at all besides providing some alternative globally available default gravatars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@scott johnson: You&#8217;ve always been able to define a custom default gravatar, so I&#8217;m really unsure why this is useful at all besides providing some alternative globally available default gravatars.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442526</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh that&#039;s awesome! I&#039;m definitely putting this on my site. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh that&#8217;s awesome! I&#8217;m definitely putting this on my site. <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shamus</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442522</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I&#039;m biased or anything, but I&#039;m partial to wavatars myself.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I&#8217;m biased or anything, but I&#8217;m partial to wavatars myself.  <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442519</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then I guess you&#039;d want to get yourself a gravatar to stop that happening?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then I guess you&#8217;d want to get yourself a gravatar to stop that happening?</p>
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		<title>By: mare</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442515</link>
		<dc:creator>mare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is tthe pattern editable ? what if some dude place funny pictures iand the commenters felt somewhat disrepresent by them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is tthe pattern editable ? what if some dude place funny pictures iand the commenters felt somewhat disrepresent by them</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Knight</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442506</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really great - but first I&#039;d like to know how the gravatars work - i got one, but how do i get it to show?

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really great &#8211; but first I&#8217;d like to know how the gravatars work &#8211; i got one, but how do i get it to show?</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Smith</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442505</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ma.tt/?p=5224#comment-442505</guid>
		<description>Very cool but I&#039;m having one problem with it. With identicon enabled, my trackbacks get a broken image instead of the default as it did without identicon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool but I&#8217;m having one problem with it. With identicon enabled, my trackbacks get a broken image instead of the default as it did without identicon.</p>
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		<title>By: Huan</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2008/04/identicons-from-gravatar/#comment-442490</link>
		<dc:creator>Huan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ma.tt/?p=5224#comment-442490</guid>
		<description>Good looking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good looking</p>
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