Comments on: Google & China http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/ Unlucky in Cards Sat, 26 May 2012 13:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4-RC1 By: nxtgates http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-475221 nxtgates Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:23:35 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-475221 Google isn't going to pack up it's operations in china just because of censorship issues, which are there in many other countries like India, or hacking issues, which are there in all the countries. This is just a threat to render a blow at China's censorship model, which I don't think is working. There are enough smart people working at Google who realize that it isn't practical to quit the biggest internet market. Checkout this article http://techguylabs.org/2010/01/24/google-china-fiasco-the-complete-picture/. Google isn’t going to pack up it’s operations in china just because of censorship issues, which are there in many other countries like India, or hacking issues, which are there in all the countries.

This is just a threat to render a blow at China’s censorship model, which I don’t think is working.

There are enough smart people working at Google who realize that it isn’t practical to quit the biggest internet market.

Checkout this article http://techguylabs.org/2010/01/24/google-china-fiasco-the-complete-picture/.

]]> By: Hong Xiaowan http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-475012 Hong Xiaowan Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:41:37 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-475012 Take it easy, raysimlee China is Just Another USA for 1920's. Freedom limited by the law. Also in USA. The darkness will disappear in the future. Google is Just Another chess of the Chinamerica Chessboard. Chinamerica is Just Another chess of Mid-term elections. Obama must criticize China to get more support. Google should do something to support Obama, also get a big news. Google's request is Just Another extraterritoriality, that is Just Another joke. China did not care about to ban all Google service. Google must obey the China law when in China. Google is not Just Another U.S. Embassy. haha... Just Another Wordpress.com blog... Take it easy, raysimlee

China is Just Another USA for 1920′s. Freedom limited by the law. Also in USA. The darkness will disappear in the future.

Google is Just Another chess of the Chinamerica Chessboard.

Chinamerica is Just Another chess of Mid-term elections. Obama must criticize China to get more support. Google should do something to support Obama, also get a big news.

Google’s request is Just Another extraterritoriality, that is Just Another joke. China did not care about to ban all Google service. Google must obey the China law when in China.

Google is not Just Another U.S. Embassy.

haha… Just Another WordPress.com blog…

]]> By: raysimlee http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-475006 raysimlee Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:58:39 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-475006 Google violated copyright of Chinese writers in China and was taken to court. The CEO of Google apologized to the Chinese writers but his apology was not accepted by the writers for not being sincere. This is the main reason the CEO was angry with China. Not the bulls*** reason of cyber attacks. USA and west attack every non-western human being in this world what are you people saying about that? You white and 'human right thugs' should check reality and behave as decent human should. Not supporting death, destruction, and mass murder of Arabs. Do not support and behave like the ultra arrogant anti-human thugs of the rich and powerful Americans. (Google CEO for one.) Google wants to support anti-Chinese terrorists. This exact behavior is the reason why terrorists attack the west. What goes around comes around you people must remember that. The west need reality check. Google is ultra rich. Typical behavior of these people are arrogant. This arrogance is the real reason. The west really need t learn more about China. Your ignorance make you people behave irresponsible and violate the human right of Chinese in China. Remember Chinese are also human and has rights too. Chinese are not some subhuman controlled by a government. Google violated copyright of Chinese writers in China and was taken to court. The CEO of Google apologized to the Chinese writers but his apology was not accepted by the writers for not being sincere. This is the main reason the CEO was angry with China. Not the bulls*** reason of cyber attacks. USA and west attack every non-western human being in this world what are you people saying about that?

You white and ‘human right thugs’ should check reality and behave as decent human should. Not supporting death, destruction, and mass murder of Arabs. Do not support and behave like the ultra arrogant anti-human thugs of the rich and powerful Americans. (Google CEO for one.)

Google wants to support anti-Chinese terrorists. This exact behavior is the reason why terrorists attack the west. What goes around comes around you people must remember that.

The west need reality check. Google is ultra rich. Typical behavior of these people are arrogant.

This arrogance is the real reason. The west really need t learn more about China. Your ignorance make you people behave irresponsible and violate the human right of Chinese in China.

Remember Chinese are also human and has rights too. Chinese are not some subhuman controlled by a government.

]]> By: Hong Xiaowan http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474819 Hong Xiaowan Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:29:56 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474819 Baidu is a USA company, it is not a local company. Baidu's main market is China and Japan. Baidu is a USA company, it is not a local company. Baidu’s main market is China and Japan.

]]> By: Hong Xiaowan http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474813 Hong Xiaowan Fri, 15 Jan 2010 03:07:03 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474813 Google should give Google.cn full rights to operate the business in China, just like what myspace did in China, or, sell Google.cn to a company, just like yahoo sell yahoo.cn to alibaba. Google should give Google.cn full rights to operate the business in China, just like what myspace did in China, or, sell Google.cn to a company, just like yahoo sell yahoo.cn to alibaba.

]]> By: John http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474812 John Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:23:25 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474812 Google CEO's post? I have not seen that, could you direct me to the resource? Google CEO’s post? I have not seen that, could you direct me to the resource?

]]> By: timi http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474794 timi Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:44:14 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474794 If you look only on numbers, yes China is a big market. But what about the NDA an human rights! I do not understand why democratic countries have to obey to non democratic ones. Think about it; one day you wake up and you will be surprised that UR in a bad situation. So I agree totally with Google decision. If you look only on numbers, yes China is a big market. But what about the NDA an human rights! I do not understand why democratic countries have to obey to non democratic ones. Think about it; one day you wake up and you will be surprised that UR in a bad situation.

So I agree totally with Google decision.

]]> By: Howman http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474775 Howman Thu, 14 Jan 2010 04:32:30 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474775 You bring up a good point. I wonder what kind of support they will have for communication if Google pulls out. I also wonder if and how Google can get those people out of China if they go through with this. You bring up a good point. I wonder what kind of support they will have for communication if Google pulls out. I also wonder if and how Google can get those people out of China if they go through with this.

]]> By: Paul Hastings http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474766 Paul Hastings Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:29:31 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474766 I just read about it on the Google blog earlier today. Glad to see that you picked it up. Odds are good that ma.tt is monitored by Chinese officials and they've already read your blog post. Thanks for not caving in to China with WP.com. Maybe Google's move will change things. :) I just read about it on the Google blog earlier today. Glad to see that you picked it up.

Odds are good that ma.tt is monitored by Chinese officials and they’ve already read your blog post. Thanks for not caving in to China with WP.com. Maybe Google’s move will change things.
:)

]]> By: Suli http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474765 Suli Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:13:29 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474765 Amazing analyzing! But how do you get this data? I am from Hong Kong, never heard so much people were involved. FBI is doing the same thing... Monitor the internet... Amazing analyzing! But how do you get this data? I am from Hong Kong, never heard so much people were involved.

FBI is doing the same thing… Monitor the internet…

]]> By: Suli http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474764 Suli Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:01:47 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474764 Yea? But most China websites reported this news with reasons which Google's ceo explained... BTW, even the translation of Google's CEO's post were published in Chinese. Yea? But most China websites reported this news with reasons which Google’s ceo explained… BTW, even the translation of Google’s CEO’s post were published in Chinese.

]]> By: Max http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474748 Max Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:58:44 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474748 It seems not many people have realised what I thought was immediately obvious: You might trust Google with your personal information but if they can be hacked into then it is not just Google you are trusting but every nefarious hacker as well. It seems not many people have realised what I thought was immediately obvious:

You might trust Google with your personal information but if they can be hacked into then it is not just Google you are trusting but every nefarious hacker as well.

]]> By: Michael Moore http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474739 Michael Moore Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:28:41 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474739 As far as the hundreds of thousands of Chinese employed in monitoring the online activities of their citizens...how many of our fellow Americans do you think are employed by No Such Agency? Not to mention the good folks at ATT who are more than happy to provide taps to the Inet and Telco backbone for the snoops.... As far as the hundreds of thousands of Chinese employed in monitoring the online activities of their citizens…how many of our fellow Americans do you think are employed by No Such Agency? Not to mention the good folks at ATT who are more than happy to provide taps to the Inet and Telco backbone for the snoops….

]]> By: Michael Moore http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474738 Michael Moore Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:26:08 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474738 What's happeneing in China CAN happen here...except the content control will come via the corps like Comcast (who are working to buy NBC) and Supreme Court decisions against Net Neutrality... plus a do nothing Congress that talks Net neutrality while accepting donations from the big pipe owners like Comcast, et al.... What’s happeneing in China CAN happen here…except the content control will come via the corps like Comcast (who are working to buy NBC) and Supreme Court decisions against Net Neutrality… plus a do nothing Congress that talks Net neutrality while accepting donations from the big pipe owners like Comcast, et al….

]]> By: Google官方博客声称重新审视中国市场 引出网络新名词“非法献花” » 键客网-分享互联网 http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474720 Google官方博客声称重新审视中国市场 引出网络新名词“非法献花” » 键客网-分享互联网 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:01:19 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474720 [...] Wordpress大佬 Matt 《Google is taking a new approach to China》 [...] [...] WordPress大佬 Matt 《Google is taking a new approach to China》 [...]

]]> By: Debra http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474718 Debra Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:22:44 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474718 All of you who cited Baidu taking over if Google leaves China are correct. That's what the government wants. It's not just Google.cn that's filtered. It's ALL of the websites. One of the must lucrative jobs in China is as an Internet screener! In Changsha alone (SE China, city of 6 million), there are over 60,000 people employed to block, report and filter information on the Internet. China is still a communist country. The Internet, TV, radio and cell phones can be shut down within an hour. All of you who cited Baidu taking over if Google leaves China are correct. That’s what the government wants. It’s not just Google.cn that’s filtered. It’s ALL of the websites. One of the must lucrative jobs in China is as an Internet screener! In Changsha alone (SE China, city of 6 million), there are over 60,000 people employed to block, report and filter information on the Internet. China is still a communist country. The Internet, TV, radio and cell phones can be shut down within an hour.

]]> By: Pep http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474711 Pep Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:39:59 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474711 Google has won the respect of people Google has won the respect of people

]]> By: Aw http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474710 Aw Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:27:57 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474710 The interesting thing is, not only Google is pulling out, even many local Chinese startups are pulling out. The interesting thing is, not only Google is pulling out, even many local Chinese startups are pulling out.

]]> By: donnacha | WordSkill http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474709 donnacha | WordSkill Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:14:00 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474709 Google just stepped in front of a tank. This is an astonishing move for a large corporation whose share price is based largely upon the assumption of continuous worldwide growth. Their share price has already taken a hit and analysts are now upping their rating on competitor Baidu. What this means is that, despite their extremely privileged and cosseted lives, despite the fact that they can safely sit back and enjoy life in the bubble, the top execs at Google have somehow remembered their humanity, their connection to principled people sitting, desperately worried and frightened, in cold prison cells on the other side of the world. While pretty much every other Western company fall over themselves to appease the Chinese government, Google have, incredibly, done the right thing. I presumed "Don't Be Evil" was just a cute slogan but, no, they meant it, my respect for this company has surged. In these sorry times, nothing speaks louder than a company choosing principle over greed. Matt, I hope you keep protecting the DNA of Automattic, no matter how much money gets thrown at you. Google just stepped in front of a tank.

This is an astonishing move for a large corporation whose share price is based largely upon the assumption of continuous worldwide growth. Their share price has already taken a hit and analysts are now upping their rating on competitor Baidu.

What this means is that, despite their extremely privileged and cosseted lives, despite the fact that they can safely sit back and enjoy life in the bubble, the top execs at Google have somehow remembered their humanity, their connection to principled people sitting, desperately worried and frightened, in cold prison cells on the other side of the world.

While pretty much every other Western company fall over themselves to appease the Chinese government, Google have, incredibly, done the right thing.

I presumed “Don’t Be Evil” was just a cute slogan but, no, they meant it, my respect for this company has surged. In these sorry times, nothing speaks louder than a company choosing principle over greed.

Matt, I hope you keep protecting the DNA of Automattic, no matter how much money gets thrown at you.

]]> By: aleung http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474706 aleung Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:31:49 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474706 There are a lot of people in China do need Google. Anyway we will continue to access Google even if we need to climb over the great firewall. There are a lot of people in China do need Google. Anyway we will continue to access Google even if we need to climb over the great firewall.

]]> By: 风敲竹（Bamind） http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474705 风敲竹（Bamind） Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:30:10 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474705 It's said that employees would get 6 months extra paid after Google had left China. This info came from a Tweet with #GoogleCN tag and I don't know if it's real. It’s said that employees would get 6 months extra paid after Google had left China. This info came from a Tweet with #GoogleCN tag and I don’t know if it’s real.

]]> By: 风敲竹（Bamind） http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474704 风敲竹（Bamind） Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:24:43 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474704 I just don't know what to say. Who knows what will be going on in China Mainland. XXX Sucks! I just don’t know what to say. Who knows what will be going on in China Mainland. XXX Sucks!

]]> By: Jutoy http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474703 Jutoy Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:17:13 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474703 what a shame, China. what a shame, China.

]]> By: vivek http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474691 vivek Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:15:44 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474691 Finally google proves that ethics are way more important than minting money. This will definitely spark up the human right activist in China as well as around the world. CIIRC will now have something to think over. Finally google proves that ethics are way more important than minting money. This will definitely spark up the human right activist in China as well as around the world. CIIRC will now have something to think over.

]]> By: Matt http://ma.tt/2010/01/google-china/#comment-474687 Matt Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:24:46 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=33549#comment-474687 We already are blocked and choose not to operate directly in China, there's an article about it here: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5igVn4hcj6ZNWlawSvzLvgEMkZmkQ We already are blocked and choose not to operate directly in China, there’s an article about it here:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5igVn4hcj6ZNWlawSvzLvgEMkZmkQ

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