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		<title>By: Jesper Petersen</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-564484</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesper Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 13:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for the record - I just caved in and bought 2 Sonos Play 5 Units (and a bridge...). I have hooked them up in stereo mode which sounds great. Might not satisfy High Fi aficionados but more than adequate for my needs. The whole process from out of the box till up and running (stereo mode, Spotify acount log in, NAS music folder identified by the Sonos, Ipad and Razr coupled up as remotes)took less than 30 minutes. 
 The deciding matter ended up being the seamless Spotify integration, but now that the system is up an running I´m quite sorry I ever used time messing with anything else....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record &#8211; I just caved in and bought 2 Sonos Play 5 Units (and a bridge&#8230;). I have hooked them up in stereo mode which sounds great. Might not satisfy High Fi aficionados but more than adequate for my needs. The whole process from out of the box till up and running (stereo mode, Spotify acount log in, NAS music folder identified by the Sonos, Ipad and Razr coupled up as remotes)took less than 30 minutes.<br />
 The deciding matter ended up being the seamless Spotify integration, but now that the system is up an running I´m quite sorry I ever used time messing with anything else&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-559898</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 00:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought I would add my two cents.

I have a bit of experience with Squeezeboxes. I have a Classic, two duets and a Boom.

As Mr Wombat eater stated some versions of Squeezebox Server just don&#039;t work. I have currently settled on V7.5.6 and it is bullet proof. 

Most of my issues have revolved around wireless issues. I have mostly used Netgear routers and that was fine with my classic, but when I bought the duets they were nothing but problems. I changed my wireless access point to a TPLink and they have not missed a beat since. As stated above somewhere having them hard wired would be a better solution if you are not running duets.

Someone commented about wma playback. If Squeezebox Server is running on a Windows PC then it can play wma format. Microsoft will not release the wma format to enable it to be used on other operating systems.

As for the RaspberryPi I already have my name on the waiting list. I see no reason it could not run Squeezeplay. Just be aware it may not sync well?

CYA

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I would add my two cents.</p>
<p>I have a bit of experience with Squeezeboxes. I have a Classic, two duets and a Boom.</p>
<p>As Mr Wombat eater stated some versions of Squeezebox Server just don&#8217;t work. I have currently settled on V7.5.6 and it is bullet proof. </p>
<p>Most of my issues have revolved around wireless issues. I have mostly used Netgear routers and that was fine with my classic, but when I bought the duets they were nothing but problems. I changed my wireless access point to a TPLink and they have not missed a beat since. As stated above somewhere having them hard wired would be a better solution if you are not running duets.</p>
<p>Someone commented about wma playback. If Squeezebox Server is running on a Windows PC then it can play wma format. Microsoft will not release the wma format to enable it to be used on other operating systems.</p>
<p>As for the RaspberryPi I already have my name on the waiting list. I see no reason it could not run Squeezeplay. Just be aware it may not sync well?</p>
<p>CYA</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-542242</link>
		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, with SB you can&#039;t effortlessly use locally stored music unless the PC is always on. Switching between PC and internet only requires me to click thru the network setup process on my SqueezeBox Boom, and then it does some uncalled-for software update (every time!) and restarts. So if you&#039;re like me, and think it shouldn&#039;t take 60 secs to turn on a radio, you&#039;ll need the PC/NAS running every time - no internet radio listening in between.

Do you think my girlfried uses the Boom under these circumstances? Logitech should take usability seriously, and fix such design flaws. They&#039;re loosing a lot of money not doing so; just look at me, I use the system a lot, want to love it, but most of the time won&#039;t recommend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, with SB you can&#8217;t effortlessly use locally stored music unless the PC is always on. Switching between PC and internet only requires me to click thru the network setup process on my SqueezeBox Boom, and then it does some uncalled-for software update (every time!) and restarts. So if you&#8217;re like me, and think it shouldn&#8217;t take 60 secs to turn on a radio, you&#8217;ll need the PC/NAS running every time &#8211; no internet radio listening in between.</p>
<p>Do you think my girlfried uses the Boom under these circumstances? Logitech should take usability seriously, and fix such design flaws. They&#8217;re loosing a lot of money not doing so; just look at me, I use the system a lot, want to love it, but most of the time won&#8217;t recommend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eats Wombats</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-540844</link>
		<dc:creator>Eats Wombats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a link to a review of iPeng above. Looks like I&#039;ll have to abandon it as I&#039;ve switched from iPhone to Android (HTC Sensation) and I haven&#039;t yet got a replacement. Recommendations welcome.

Since then

1. My Squeezebox2 had to have a new case. The old had become STICKY (yuk!). Discovered when I moved house. Luckily I was able to find a source and I bought a spare power supply for good measure. This unit has been in continuous use since 2005. 

2. One of my Squeezebox Duet receivers died.

3. My 5+ year old ReadyNAS NV has had new hard drives (now 4x 1.5Tb) and new OS updates and still runs perfectly as my music server. I&#039;m a bit surprised by the reports of problems people have had with Squeezebox gear and assume that the problems may be a result of using

a) wireless connections. (I prefer wired links and would rather use Homeplug type adapters than wireless; wireless is great for web pages and email but streaming.. I&#039;ve found it ok but less reliable. YMMV)

b) the wrong server software. If you read the squeezebox forum its apparent that some versions work better than others. Trying to stay up with the latest is a mug&#039;s game. I stay well away from the bleeding edge and have only once used something other than the stock version provided by Netgear for my ReadNAS (it was Infrant when I bought it). I have a hunch I&#039;ll get 10 years out of my NAS box. 

I wouldn&#039;t buy the Logitech Duets again. A phone/tablet app is a better solution to the handset. I&#039;ve been told that a phone app cannot set up a receiver; am not sure if that&#039;s still true. 

I&#039;d like to think that someone will make receiver units based on something like the RaspberryPi (see http://www.raspberrypi.org) one of these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a link to a review of iPeng above. Looks like I&#8217;ll have to abandon it as I&#8217;ve switched from iPhone to Android (HTC Sensation) and I haven&#8217;t yet got a replacement. Recommendations welcome.</p>
<p>Since then</p>
<p>1. My Squeezebox2 had to have a new case. The old had become STICKY (yuk!). Discovered when I moved house. Luckily I was able to find a source and I bought a spare power supply for good measure. This unit has been in continuous use since 2005. </p>
<p>2. One of my Squeezebox Duet receivers died.</p>
<p>3. My 5+ year old ReadyNAS NV has had new hard drives (now 4x 1.5Tb) and new OS updates and still runs perfectly as my music server. I&#8217;m a bit surprised by the reports of problems people have had with Squeezebox gear and assume that the problems may be a result of using</p>
<p>a) wireless connections. (I prefer wired links and would rather use Homeplug type adapters than wireless; wireless is great for web pages and email but streaming.. I&#8217;ve found it ok but less reliable. YMMV)</p>
<p>b) the wrong server software. If you read the squeezebox forum its apparent that some versions work better than others. Trying to stay up with the latest is a mug&#8217;s game. I stay well away from the bleeding edge and have only once used something other than the stock version provided by Netgear for my ReadNAS (it was Infrant when I bought it). I have a hunch I&#8217;ll get 10 years out of my NAS box. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t buy the Logitech Duets again. A phone/tablet app is a better solution to the handset. I&#8217;ve been told that a phone app cannot set up a receiver; am not sure if that&#8217;s still true. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that someone will make receiver units based on something like the RaspberryPi (see <a href="http://www.raspberrypi.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.raspberrypi.org</a>) one of these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-539542</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 02:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love my Sonos, but I&#039;ve never used the Squeezebox.  I have the Sonos hooked up through my Yamaha Receiver &amp; home theater, as well as a Play:5 and Play:3 speaker systems that mostly stay in the offices of our home...  but can carry either of them to the kitchen or back patio to listen to with perfect clarity.  We use our laptops and android phones to control all three speaker systems.  Super easy and the speakers sound phenomenal for being so small and light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my Sonos, but I&#8217;ve never used the Squeezebox.  I have the Sonos hooked up through my Yamaha Receiver &amp; home theater, as well as a Play:5 and Play:3 speaker systems that mostly stay in the offices of our home&#8230;  but can carry either of them to the kitchen or back patio to listen to with perfect clarity.  We use our laptops and android phones to control all three speaker systems.  Super easy and the speakers sound phenomenal for being so small and light.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-539089</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a squeezebox setup for while but in house the wifi network was just too unreliable for wireless operation, so I ended up getting boosters which was only partly successful, losing connection sometimes.

I&#039;ve just invested in a starter Sonos setup mainly because of its Mesh network and it really is a revelation. Like they all say it just works, but knowing the wifi issues I&#039;m mightily impressed , and I haven&#039;t even got multi rooms (yet) just a Bridge and a Play:5 but even so it works over the whole house without a glitch (I gather however that the earlier generation products did not have such a good wireless range, so if you buy second hand units on eBay your mileage may vary). 

I won&#039;t repeat all the ease of use stuff, but I&#039;m delighted with my choice and shall be expanding despite the cost. 

The support in terms of never making components obsolete means it really is the Rolls-Royce solution and I&#039;m got that warm secure feeling that I&#039;ve bought into a flexible system that will last a lifetime. You only have to look at the price used (even older generation) units fetch on eBay to realise how prized this system is, although watch out for the expensive CR200 controller which some have problems with the touch screen. I&#039;m fine controlling it from my PCs, Android and iPhone apps which all play together perfectly at the same time. It&#039;s clear to see this system has a first class pedigree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a squeezebox setup for while but in house the wifi network was just too unreliable for wireless operation, so I ended up getting boosters which was only partly successful, losing connection sometimes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just invested in a starter Sonos setup mainly because of its Mesh network and it really is a revelation. Like they all say it just works, but knowing the wifi issues I&#8217;m mightily impressed , and I haven&#8217;t even got multi rooms (yet) just a Bridge and a Play:5 but even so it works over the whole house without a glitch (I gather however that the earlier generation products did not have such a good wireless range, so if you buy second hand units on eBay your mileage may vary). </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t repeat all the ease of use stuff, but I&#8217;m delighted with my choice and shall be expanding despite the cost. </p>
<p>The support in terms of never making components obsolete means it really is the Rolls-Royce solution and I&#8217;m got that warm secure feeling that I&#8217;ve bought into a flexible system that will last a lifetime. You only have to look at the price used (even older generation) units fetch on eBay to realise how prized this system is, although watch out for the expensive CR200 controller which some have problems with the touch screen. I&#8217;m fine controlling it from my PCs, Android and iPhone apps which all play together perfectly at the same time. It&#8217;s clear to see this system has a first class pedigree.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-538904</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a Squeezebox Duet about a year ago, it appealed because my stereo is all housed in a cupboard and operated by IR sender.  The Duet controller suits this set up beautifully - I just wish Logitech would make a single remote which would control both my IR devices (Amp, TV and DVD player) as well as the Squeezebox.

I found it pretty frustrating to start with however, once I got it and my Netgear ReadyNAS talking to each other it&#039;s fantastic - I have listened to a CD since.

I&#039;ve now bought a 2nd Duet for the Kitchen (it cost me £120 direct from Logitech) and at that price might as well get a 3rd for my daughter&#039;s bedroom.

I&#039;ll admit that it was mostly price that put me off the Sonos but the bulky controller didn&#039;t appeal (I have Nokia phone so there&#039;s no simple App for either device - I can control it with the phone but it&#039;s not a pleasant experience, however my daughter seems to manage fine with her Android phone).

What surprised me when I looked was that I couldn&#039;t find a Squeezebox on the high street (so couldn&#039;t listen before i bought it) and Sonos wanted to sell me a device with an amp and speaker built into it (as I already have Linn speakers and pre/power amps i wasn&#039;t impressed).

I did add an external Linn Numerik DAC  (£200 off eBay) which I think improved the sound quality (I didn&#039;t bother in the cheaper stereo in my kitchen and won&#039;t for my daughter&#039;s mini-system as it sounds excellent as is through those).

My reservation is, that as others say it was a hassle to get it working initially and I still experience occasional niggles.  Some might be due to a weak wifi signal in certain parts of the house but sometimes the device just seems to hang - it usually restores itself if you wait or restart it but can be pretty irritating.

I also love it for BBC Radio including their podcasts but haven&#039;t been overly impressed with the selection of online radio stations or Apps (but then I&#039;m too mean to pay for Spotify premium - I&#039;d rather buy the music on CD and rip it to FLAC format myself).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a Squeezebox Duet about a year ago, it appealed because my stereo is all housed in a cupboard and operated by IR sender.  The Duet controller suits this set up beautifully &#8211; I just wish Logitech would make a single remote which would control both my IR devices (Amp, TV and DVD player) as well as the Squeezebox.</p>
<p>I found it pretty frustrating to start with however, once I got it and my Netgear ReadyNAS talking to each other it&#8217;s fantastic &#8211; I have listened to a CD since.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve now bought a 2nd Duet for the Kitchen (it cost me £120 direct from Logitech) and at that price might as well get a 3rd for my daughter&#8217;s bedroom.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll admit that it was mostly price that put me off the Sonos but the bulky controller didn&#8217;t appeal (I have Nokia phone so there&#8217;s no simple App for either device &#8211; I can control it with the phone but it&#8217;s not a pleasant experience, however my daughter seems to manage fine with her Android phone).</p>
<p>What surprised me when I looked was that I couldn&#8217;t find a Squeezebox on the high street (so couldn&#8217;t listen before i bought it) and Sonos wanted to sell me a device with an amp and speaker built into it (as I already have Linn speakers and pre/power amps i wasn&#8217;t impressed).</p>
<p>I did add an external Linn Numerik DAC  (£200 off eBay) which I think improved the sound quality (I didn&#8217;t bother in the cheaper stereo in my kitchen and won&#8217;t for my daughter&#8217;s mini-system as it sounds excellent as is through those).</p>
<p>My reservation is, that as others say it was a hassle to get it working initially and I still experience occasional niggles.  Some might be due to a weak wifi signal in certain parts of the house but sometimes the device just seems to hang &#8211; it usually restores itself if you wait or restart it but can be pretty irritating.</p>
<p>I also love it for BBC Radio including their podcasts but haven&#8217;t been overly impressed with the selection of online radio stations or Apps (but then I&#8217;m too mean to pay for Spotify premium &#8211; I&#8217;d rather buy the music on CD and rip it to FLAC format myself).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-531280</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using the SB Classic for about 5 years, and have been very happy with it. 

One point about needing an always-on server to run the SqueezeServer: I&#039;ve installed a standby app (available from the SlimDevices site) that puts the server into standby after a period of non-use; it can also put the server into standby at a predefined time. The SB support WOL, to allow it to wake up the server from standby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using the SB Classic for about 5 years, and have been very happy with it. </p>
<p>One point about needing an always-on server to run the SqueezeServer: I&#8217;ve installed a standby app (available from the SlimDevices site) that puts the server into standby after a period of non-use; it can also put the server into standby at a predefined time. The SB support WOL, to allow it to wake up the server from standby.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-530423</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 21:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Running Squeezebox server on a bigger Qnap and controlling everything with ipod/ipad/iphone and love it. Only bugy thing is the playback on the controller through the 3.5 Jack. Anything else works flawless - but it is essential that you have a working wireless and/or network. Sync is perfect and Audio quality can be superior to the Sonos. Depending on the Setup you can run cheaper with either the Sonos or the Squeezebox - since the Sonos has built in amps in some models that is a benefit. I am running receivers that connect to Amps and then have lower to higher end Speakers attached. Sweet thing about the Squeezeboxes is that you can make the setup disappear if you buy a high-end mini amp - the sonos player with the integrated amp is fairly large.

make your choice... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running Squeezebox server on a bigger Qnap and controlling everything with ipod/ipad/iphone and love it. Only bugy thing is the playback on the controller through the 3.5 Jack. Anything else works flawless &#8211; but it is essential that you have a working wireless and/or network. Sync is perfect and Audio quality can be superior to the Sonos. Depending on the Setup you can run cheaper with either the Sonos or the Squeezebox &#8211; since the Sonos has built in amps in some models that is a benefit. I am running receivers that connect to Amps and then have lower to higher end Speakers attached. Sweet thing about the Squeezeboxes is that you can make the setup disappear if you buy a high-end mini amp &#8211; the sonos player with the integrated amp is fairly large.</p>
<p>make your choice&#8230; <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gadgety</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-529295</link>
		<dc:creator>Gadgety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been said before, but it&#039;s worth repeating. For music quality, and 24/96 playback, get the Squeezebox Touch. 

If you listen to mp3&#039;s, don&#039;t care about sound quality, can&#039;t handle any hiccups and need convenience, get the Sonos. 

I&#039;ve been through ups and downs with the Squeezebox, it has required asking people in the Squeezebox user forums for help, and required a few hours of time here and there, but the sound quality is far beyond the Sonos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been said before, but it&#8217;s worth repeating. For music quality, and 24/96 playback, get the Squeezebox Touch. </p>
<p>If you listen to mp3&#8242;s, don&#8217;t care about sound quality, can&#8217;t handle any hiccups and need convenience, get the Sonos. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been through ups and downs with the Squeezebox, it has required asking people in the Squeezebox user forums for help, and required a few hours of time here and there, but the sound quality is far beyond the Sonos.</p>
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		<title>By: Trojan</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-526668</link>
		<dc:creator>Trojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 11:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My set-up has my CD collection stored in WAV format on an always on ReadyNAS Duo which is linked to the house electical circuit using Powerline Homeplugs (great and cheap way to get fast connections throughout a large house).

Music is available in one room via a Squeezebox Touch and in another on a Naim Uniti. Both produce great sound. My Touch doesn&#039;t suffer from the connectivity issues some mention maybe because in effect it has a wired connection.

I went down the Squeezebox route because it&#039;s cheaper than alternatives and because I could store/play music stored in Flac or WAV - playback quality is so superior to MP3. Love internet radio too but quality there is patchy.

Set-up was relatively painless but based on the comments in this blog I&#039;m sure it was a bit more laborious than for a Sonos system. My suggestion...compare music stored in MP3 and in lossless WAV or Flac on the amp/speakers to be used. If you can&#039;t tell the difference and can afford Sonos, buy Sonos otherwise Squeezebox and/or the Uniti present a far better solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My set-up has my CD collection stored in WAV format on an always on ReadyNAS Duo which is linked to the house electical circuit using Powerline Homeplugs (great and cheap way to get fast connections throughout a large house).</p>
<p>Music is available in one room via a Squeezebox Touch and in another on a Naim Uniti. Both produce great sound. My Touch doesn&#8217;t suffer from the connectivity issues some mention maybe because in effect it has a wired connection.</p>
<p>I went down the Squeezebox route because it&#8217;s cheaper than alternatives and because I could store/play music stored in Flac or WAV &#8211; playback quality is so superior to MP3. Love internet radio too but quality there is patchy.</p>
<p>Set-up was relatively painless but based on the comments in this blog I&#8217;m sure it was a bit more laborious than for a Sonos system. My suggestion&#8230;compare music stored in MP3 and in lossless WAV or Flac on the amp/speakers to be used. If you can&#8217;t tell the difference and can afford Sonos, buy Sonos otherwise Squeezebox and/or the Uniti present a far better solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Archaic</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-524209</link>
		<dc:creator>Archaic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am remodeling two bathrooms and thought wouldn&#039;t it be nice to have music in these bad boys. I suspect that I’ll be carving out some depressions in the bathroom walls and accounting for some power outlets for the S5&#039;s. “Must get S5’s dimensions….”(spoken with delay like Captain James T. Kirk)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am remodeling two bathrooms and thought wouldn&#8217;t it be nice to have music in these bad boys. I suspect that I’ll be carving out some depressions in the bathroom walls and accounting for some power outlets for the S5&#8242;s. “Must get S5’s dimensions….”(spoken with delay like Captain James T. Kirk)</p>
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		<title>By: lore</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-522209</link>
		<dc:creator>lore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 07:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are also NAS with Squeezebox server software available, like the QNAP NAS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are also NAS with Squeezebox server software available, like the QNAP NAS.</p>
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		<title>By: Stourley Kracklite</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-516093</link>
		<dc:creator>Stourley Kracklite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 05:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same here.</description>
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		<title>By: KHiggins</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-515913</link>
		<dc:creator>KHiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant even begin to tell you how much I hate squeezebox.  It is totally a piece of crap.  It does not switch between libraries or players. When it tried it crashes the whole squeezebox system and takes hours to reset.  I absolutely HATE it.  It is truely useless.  Save up your money for Sono&#039;s, our friends have it and it works flawlessly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant even begin to tell you how much I hate squeezebox.  It is totally a piece of crap.  It does not switch between libraries or players. When it tried it crashes the whole squeezebox system and takes hours to reset.  I absolutely HATE it.  It is truely useless.  Save up your money for Sono&#8217;s, our friends have it and it works flawlessly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesper Petersen</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-511735</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesper Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 06:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here they come....

I´ve missed it until now but same month as we shared the comments above, the main stream hi-fi company Marantz released this tasty little stereo
 
 http://www.hifix.co.uk/hi-fi-package-deals/marantz/mcr603-inc-mx1-speakers.html

Its a complete standard bookshelf stereo and it comes with networking and UPNP/DLNA enabled :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here they come&#8230;.</p>
<p>I´ve missed it until now but same month as we shared the comments above, the main stream hi-fi company Marantz released this tasty little stereo</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.hifix.co.uk/hi-fi-package-deals/marantz/mcr603-inc-mx1-speakers.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hifix.co.uk/hi-fi-package-deals/marantz/mcr603-inc-mx1-speakers.html</a></p>
<p>Its a complete standard bookshelf stereo and it comes with networking and UPNP/DLNA enabled <img src='http://s.ma.tt/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nick from Australia</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-510591</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick from Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 02:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure who is still reading this, but my thoughts are as follows:

I assisted setting up the home entertainment at my parents house.  They had a serious budget, and for the music side of it we went with Sonos.  They have got 29 zones in their house now (started off with 5 to see what it was like and kept growing it since), and 3 years on, I am still blown away at how perfectly the Sonos works.  It simply works, and even with issues over the years such as internet going down, changing wireless routers, power blackouts etc, the thing just keeps going without any needed maintenance.

I wanted a similar setup for my apartment, and didnt have the same budget, so I opted for the Squeezebox.  I started with one Duet, and ended up with 3 Duets and a Squeezebox Radio as my alarm clock.  My comments on squeezebox are that I simply love it....WHEN IT WORKS!  

My Squeezebox would have some sort of connectivity issue at least once a month, whereby it either cannot connect to my computer, the wireless router, or something else.  It has gotten to the point where I go to use it, and question whether it is going to work or not! I purchased it thinking that there would be an update to allow the communication with NAS drives, but to no avail.  I even purchased a Netgear ReadyNas Duo....and that thing was so slow that by the time the song started I didn&#039;t want to hear it anymore.

I will be taking all of my Squeezebox stuff to my holiday house, because at the end of the day it is a good product, but it is just unreliable/needs a lot of continuous tweaking, and buying a SONOS system for my house now that it is so cheap from the USA.

That is the final thing I will say.  Playback Systems in Australia need to start adjusting their prices inline with the US dollar or they will go out of business.  My local dealer quoted nearly twice the price as if I buy it from the USA, and said it would be 2 weeks!  They probably take the order and then just order it online and keep the difference!!!  The world is a small place now, they need to get with the times!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure who is still reading this, but my thoughts are as follows:</p>
<p>I assisted setting up the home entertainment at my parents house.  They had a serious budget, and for the music side of it we went with Sonos.  They have got 29 zones in their house now (started off with 5 to see what it was like and kept growing it since), and 3 years on, I am still blown away at how perfectly the Sonos works.  It simply works, and even with issues over the years such as internet going down, changing wireless routers, power blackouts etc, the thing just keeps going without any needed maintenance.</p>
<p>I wanted a similar setup for my apartment, and didnt have the same budget, so I opted for the Squeezebox.  I started with one Duet, and ended up with 3 Duets and a Squeezebox Radio as my alarm clock.  My comments on squeezebox are that I simply love it&#8230;.WHEN IT WORKS!  </p>
<p>My Squeezebox would have some sort of connectivity issue at least once a month, whereby it either cannot connect to my computer, the wireless router, or something else.  It has gotten to the point where I go to use it, and question whether it is going to work or not! I purchased it thinking that there would be an update to allow the communication with NAS drives, but to no avail.  I even purchased a Netgear ReadyNas Duo&#8230;.and that thing was so slow that by the time the song started I didn&#8217;t want to hear it anymore.</p>
<p>I will be taking all of my Squeezebox stuff to my holiday house, because at the end of the day it is a good product, but it is just unreliable/needs a lot of continuous tweaking, and buying a SONOS system for my house now that it is so cheap from the USA.</p>
<p>That is the final thing I will say.  Playback Systems in Australia need to start adjusting their prices inline with the US dollar or they will go out of business.  My local dealer quoted nearly twice the price as if I buy it from the USA, and said it would be 2 weeks!  They probably take the order and then just order it online and keep the difference!!!  The world is a small place now, they need to get with the times!</p>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-509959</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using Sonos + RDIO is  definitely worth looking into. While RDIO doesn&#039;t have everything, it will cover 90% (maybe more) of whats out there for most people. No need for itunes, hard drives, storage etc etc. Sonos has a nice integration and paired with an iphone or ipad its the best home audio set up I&#039;ve seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using Sonos + RDIO is  definitely worth looking into. While RDIO doesn&#8217;t have everything, it will cover 90% (maybe more) of whats out there for most people. No need for itunes, hard drives, storage etc etc. Sonos has a nice integration and paired with an iphone or ipad its the best home audio set up I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Boult</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-507484</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Boult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across these postings and at last know that I am not alone! I chose the Logitech path due to cost and had a full home setup with a Duet and Boom. I had nothing but problems: mysterious losing of all settings, numerous resets to factory settings and just way too much time spent fixing rather than listening. So I took the plunge with Sonos and have never regretted it. The Sonos just &#039;works&#039; - always and flawlessly. I can&#039;t believe Logitech still won&#039;t address such a buggy product. I am a big fan of their Harmony remotes and have never had issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across these postings and at last know that I am not alone! I chose the Logitech path due to cost and had a full home setup with a Duet and Boom. I had nothing but problems: mysterious losing of all settings, numerous resets to factory settings and just way too much time spent fixing rather than listening. So I took the plunge with Sonos and have never regretted it. The Sonos just &#8216;works&#8217; &#8211; always and flawlessly. I can&#8217;t believe Logitech still won&#8217;t address such a buggy product. I am a big fan of their Harmony remotes and have never had issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-507403</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can replicate the effect of the Sonos 120 by going with good powered speakers (ex. Audioengine A2s/A5s, M-Audio M40s) and a Squeezebox Receiver.  M40s and a receiver will run you about $325.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can replicate the effect of the Sonos 120 by going with good powered speakers (ex. Audioengine A2s/A5s, M-Audio M40s) and a Squeezebox Receiver.  M40s and a receiver will run you about $325.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-503736</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree with Eric, I have squeezecenter running on an old linux pIII 500Mhz laptop with external HHD.  Rock solid. Have ipeng on ipod touch, spotify streaming, synching is glitch free.  Yes not for mr and mrs bestbuy but love the openess of it and bang for buck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree with Eric, I have squeezecenter running on an old linux pIII 500Mhz laptop with external HHD.  Rock solid. Have ipeng on ipod touch, spotify streaming, synching is glitch free.  Yes not for mr and mrs bestbuy but love the openess of it and bang for buck</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Kuhn</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-501262</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Kuhn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 14:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to address some of the statements Jon posted yesterday.  I am running Squeezeserver on an HP Media Smart Server 470.  The majority of my library is WMA and WMA Lossless.  My squeezeboxes around the house play the WMA just fine.  I don&#039;t know what hardware requirement he is referring to that won&#039;t let him play wma files.  However, there are many ways to rip CDs and perhaps Jon used something different than I did, which was Windows media player.

Jon doesn&#039;t state what kind of Network Attached storage he has, but perhaps he can add some detail as that may be the weak link.  I have no experience with Napster, but the Squeezebox is supposed to support it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to address some of the statements Jon posted yesterday.  I am running Squeezeserver on an HP Media Smart Server 470.  The majority of my library is WMA and WMA Lossless.  My squeezeboxes around the house play the WMA just fine.  I don&#8217;t know what hardware requirement he is referring to that won&#8217;t let him play wma files.  However, there are many ways to rip CDs and perhaps Jon used something different than I did, which was Windows media player.</p>
<p>Jon doesn&#8217;t state what kind of Network Attached storage he has, but perhaps he can add some detail as that may be the weak link.  I have no experience with Napster, but the Squeezebox is supposed to support it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-501202</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am choosing between Sonos and Squeezebox.  Initially I wanted to go with Squeezebox, but moving over to Sonos after a bit of research. 

Essentially I wanted a NAS running Squeezeserver and Squeezebox Duet.  The problem with this is that although you can install the Squeezeserver on the NAS, you can&#039;t use Napster with it, even though you can add it is an app to the Squeezebox Server.  The problem is with streaming WMA - NAS boxes don&#039;t support the format due to the hardware required.

I think the main difference is that the Sonos has the hardware onboard, whereas the Squeezebox Duet products need a Squeezeserver running on a computer attached to the network.

I understand that this post is about Squeezebox as a whole (not just the Duet), and also I have specific requirements in using Napster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am choosing between Sonos and Squeezebox.  Initially I wanted to go with Squeezebox, but moving over to Sonos after a bit of research. </p>
<p>Essentially I wanted a NAS running Squeezeserver and Squeezebox Duet.  The problem with this is that although you can install the Squeezeserver on the NAS, you can&#8217;t use Napster with it, even though you can add it is an app to the Squeezebox Server.  The problem is with streaming WMA &#8211; NAS boxes don&#8217;t support the format due to the hardware required.</p>
<p>I think the main difference is that the Sonos has the hardware onboard, whereas the Squeezebox Duet products need a Squeezeserver running on a computer attached to the network.</p>
<p>I understand that this post is about Squeezebox as a whole (not just the Duet), and also I have specific requirements in using Napster.</p>
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		<title>By: Twenty-seven &#8212; Matt Mullenweg</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-500892</link>
		<dc:creator>Twenty-seven &#8212; Matt Mullenweg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Number, Wildcard DNS and Sub Domains, The Headers of Twenty Ten, Change OS X Computer Name, and Sonos vs Squeezebox, but most of the traffic was to the home page. My top emailers were Toni, Rose, Paul, my Mom, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Number, Wildcard DNS and Sub Domains, The Headers of Twenty Ten, Change OS X Computer Name, and Sonos vs Squeezebox, but most of the traffic was to the home page. My top emailers were Toni, Rose, Paul, my Mom, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Kuhn</title>
		<link>http://ma.tt/2010/03/sonos-vs-squeezebox/#comment-500725</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Kuhn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rick&#039;s comments are very good.  If I had to sell and support these products, I&#039;d go with Sonos.  Being the Windows Home Server Hobbyist that I am on a budget, the Squeezebox appeals to me, but I&#039;m an IT Manager and I can handle the networking issues.  Most folks would return the product.  

However, I&#039;m just guessing that the price differential is multiple times the cost.  

The more products, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rick&#8217;s comments are very good.  If I had to sell and support these products, I&#8217;d go with Sonos.  Being the Windows Home Server Hobbyist that I am on a budget, the Squeezebox appeals to me, but I&#8217;m an IT Manager and I can handle the networking issues.  Most folks would return the product.  </p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m just guessing that the price differential is multiple times the cost.  </p>
<p>The more products, the better.</p>
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