It’s always sad to see a good project go a direction that you’re not going to follow it in. Case in point: Power Phlogger. It’s a neat stats application that I was always partial to because it gave information like user resolution and color depth that you don’t usually get from stats programs. It is called through javascript or a backup “image” so you only get “people” in your stats, not bots. It makes it easy to view your stats in terms of actual people visiting your site, what pages they went to, how long they spent on each, information that I find a lot more useful than “X number of people came to your site in May, here are the browsers they used.” Most web logs (not weblogs) have a lot of redundant information that can be easily abstracted in a relational database. (Okay, weblogs too.)
However it’s been half a year since the application has been updated, and much longer since there have been any significant upgrades. They basically stopped working on it to focus on PowerPhlogger3, which is going to be built from an entirely new codebase. That should have been my first warning. Part of the reason WordPress has been so successful when other PHP blogging applications that started about the same time haven’t is that it built on the b2 codebase rather than rewriting everything from scratch. The old code had a lot of problems, but it’s something we’re improving incrementally with each version. (The old code also did a lot of things right.) What if the Firefox developers had decided they needed an entirely new rendering engine and we had to wait 3-4 years for the first release of Firefox? The release date for PPhlogger has fallen back again and again, and no code is currently available to the public. It went from requiring PHP 4.2 to not working on anything but PHP 5, which hasn’t even been released yet and is a long way from being available on most hosts. Along the way they created yet another PHP5 framework. Whenever version 3 comes out it will run on a dozen different databases (11 more than I need). Everything is object-oriented now.
I’m sure all of this is very exciting from some sort of computer science standpoint of code purity, but on the other end there is an impatient user. The situation is made worse by the fact that, as I have found on wordpress.org, PPhlogger 2 does not scale well, to the point of slowing down everything else on the server. I ended up just removing it. I’m going to have to turn it off on this site soon. To some extent logs become useless when your traffic grows; you just can’t watch stats like you used to. That’s why services like Technorati are popular amoung high-traffic bloggers—they extracts meaningful data (who’s linking to me?) out of the noise of web stats. I’m looking for another program that will do this.
PowerPhlogger’s first release candidate will come out “no earlier than July 2004,” a date that has been moved several times. I hope I am wrong in thinking the project has jumped the over-architected shark and they release an amazing product that is fast, useful, and stable.
What if the Firefox developers had decided they needed an entirely new rendering engine and we had to wait 3-4 years for the first release of Firefox?
Ooh, that’s cruel. 🙂
(Ben Goodger: “Firefox is the browser we wanted to build in 2000, not 2004.”)
Matt, have you considered using something like AWStats (sourcefordge project) which processes the machine logs?
This is what we do, however we are on win2k/2k3 and have access to the server, so this might not be possible for you.
If it is, it saves adding anything to your pages, and restricts any overhead to only when you process the logs which you can do say 2am in the monrning…
Dave, I use Awstats and Urchin for analyzing server logs, but they both give a much broader picture than I’d like.
Sometimes re-writing is the only way a project can move forward. In fact, didn’t the Netscape guys throw out the code from Netscape 4.X? They tried to work with it to produce the Mozilla browser but it proved to be too unwieldy it was easier to start over. That’s one reason Mozilla took to mature..
Donncha, in the process they also lost almost all of their userbase in the process. Remember when Netscape was the world’s dominant browser?
UF Prime works okay with my tiny amount of traffic, but don’t suppose it would scale terribly well either. Surely you could write your own without too much trouble? If you want it to be a current-events Technorati kind of thing, you wouldn’t even need to keep a lot of the aggregate stats (per month etc.) for very long.
Pluto, is that perl? Say it ain’t so. 😉
I use TFS Statistics and it works great!
i have powerphlogger 2.2.3 running on my server, and as much as i like how extensive and poweful it is, sites seem to run slower when i add the small snippet of javascript. i’m not sure if this is due to my server bogging down, or if powerphlogger itself is causing the issue. removing the line of code seems to speed things back up again.
i’ve been playing with DAS for a while now; worth a look.
http://das.reinvigorate.net/
DAS looks amazing. I’m testing it out on wordpress.org.
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