Essentially Microsoft has announced that they are releasing yet another semi-compliant browser. To quote Lee Iacocca, “Either lead, follow, or get out of the way.” Once again, IE will do none of the above.
Roy: That’s just not productive. Progress is being made. Is Acid 2 crucial? If it was crucial why wasn’t it put together sooner? The fact that WaSP is involved is nice, but having the competition (Opera) be involved tends to muddy the waters a bit. I think that Acid2 ‘compliance’ would be nice, really. However, having it fixed is more important.
My greatest concern with IE is actual saturation. There are lots of people still on Windows 98, 2000, ME, and lots of XP. If IE 7 is released for XP and Vista, how long until I can actually code for it? If acceptance of the new browser is only 25% I can’t reliably code for it.
Michael: Microsoft has lead, they’re adding things into IE that will probably lead simply in a de facto manner: they’ll hold the majority of the browser share due to Windows and ignorant users. Microsoft is also a major benefactor of W3C. I’m not a pro-Softy, but I do think that their movement after so many years of stagnation should cause us all to breathe a little sigh of relief.
Hey, it could be worse: We could still be facing minor updates of Netscape 4 and having 50% of web users on that!
My greatest concern with IE is actual saturation. There are lots of people still on Windows 98, 2000, ME, and lots of XP. If IE 7 is released for XP and Vista, how long until I can actually code for it? If acceptance of the new browser is only 25% I can’t reliably code for it.
There exists a solution that Microsoft loathe. It is called Java Runtime Environment — the fear of any company whose aim is to monopolise using dot net, much as they did with VB. Java is the reason I can run Firefox 1.0.4 on an old Windows 98 laptop.
Ugggg at least they’re doing something with IE instead of just leaving the functionality the way it was. It’s a step towards progress…but no where near the functionality that Firefox has. IE has much room for improvement still =/
Microsoft has a philosophy for IE, and just about everything they produce.
“Code everything half assed, and leave the upgrades for later.”
That way it leaves the end users for something to desire. Bug fixes, features that should have been there since version 2.0, etc..
ie. ‘hey, if i actually upgrade enough times, maybe it will work correctly.’
god only knows why people don’t switch to some better alternative .. hell ANY alternative.
Marcus made some comments on that here: http://mwynwood.com/blog/?p=175
You are looking at an MSDN site… that’s like reading a WordPress review on wp.org. A long-time Windows advocate will bring you up to date:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/47208/47208.html?Ad=1
Essentially Microsoft has announced that they are releasing yet another semi-compliant browser. To quote Lee Iacocca, “Either lead, follow, or get out of the way.” Once again, IE will do none of the above.
Roy: That’s just not productive. Progress is being made. Is Acid 2 crucial? If it was crucial why wasn’t it put together sooner? The fact that WaSP is involved is nice, but having the competition (Opera) be involved tends to muddy the waters a bit. I think that Acid2 ‘compliance’ would be nice, really. However, having it fixed is more important.
My greatest concern with IE is actual saturation. There are lots of people still on Windows 98, 2000, ME, and lots of XP. If IE 7 is released for XP and Vista, how long until I can actually code for it? If acceptance of the new browser is only 25% I can’t reliably code for it.
Michael: Microsoft has lead, they’re adding things into IE that will probably lead simply in a de facto manner: they’ll hold the majority of the browser share due to Windows and ignorant users. Microsoft is also a major benefactor of W3C. I’m not a pro-Softy, but I do think that their movement after so many years of stagnation should cause us all to breathe a little sigh of relief.
Hey, it could be worse: We could still be facing minor updates of Netscape 4 and having 50% of web users on that!
Wait a minute! They’ve just added support for the HTML 4.01 abbr element? … No way!
Randy:
There exists a solution that Microsoft loathe. It is called Java Runtime Environment — the fear of any company whose aim is to monopolise using dot net, much as they did with VB. Java is the reason I can run Firefox 1.0.4 on an old Windows 98 laptop.
Ugggg at least they’re doing something with IE instead of just leaving the functionality the way it was. It’s a step towards progress…but no where near the functionality that Firefox has. IE has much room for improvement still =/
Microsoft has a philosophy for IE, and just about everything they produce.
“Code everything half assed, and leave the upgrades for later.”
That way it leaves the end users for something to desire. Bug fixes, features that should have been there since version 2.0, etc..
ie. ‘hey, if i actually upgrade enough times, maybe it will work correctly.’
god only knows why people don’t switch to some better alternative .. hell ANY alternative.
Hmmm but png display is very buggy, its messing up colors…
as to see here: http://moins.de/2005/07/30/transparenz-mit-dem-ie-7-beta-1/